Not at all. To the extent that any individual subscribes to the tenets of Conservatism, welcome aboard! You are though, ignoring realities of where we are today. I don't accept that blacks must vote liberal, but the vast majority of them do, and in so doing, they are ruining our country, and I am not going to give them a pass for their actions that contravene those same Conservative values you mention.
It's interesting that you mention turning 10% of Blacks to Conservatism, because years ago that theory was brought out in a slightly different context. Realizing that Blacks were disadvantaged by being new to Western Civilization, it was postulated that if ten percent of Blacks could achieve success, that they would “show the road” to the rest. And there is no question but that a goodly number of Blacks have achieved success, but they have characteristically NOT USED THEIR GOOD FORTUNE TO HELP THE LESS FORTUNATE MEMBERS OF THEIR ETHNIC GROUP. Actually, the converse has been shown to be largely true. It's like the conundrum law enforcement faces. They know that their safety depends upon correctly assessing their situation and acting accordingly. Any cop who engages a Black does so with trepidation based on statistics and not on the individual, and while that's sad that he does, it's reality. My daughter dates a man who is mixed race, and he looks African. She tells me about how he's mistreated (he has a masters degree in Engineering from a major university) when they are out in public. But he understands that his treatment is based on the broader statistic that says people like him are more likely to present a problem. So I am all for a plan that fixes this problem, but I don't see one on the horizon any time soon. In fact, thanks to eight years of Obama, the situation has become demonstrably worse, and it's thanks to his policies and pronouncements.
Good news. With Trump in the White House, the needed cleaning up after the Obama era has begun.
“Not at all.”
Well, I was being polite. What you posted, that got deleted because I reported it, was overtly racist.
There is a reason it got deleted.
You need to learn from your mistake rather than defending your comments.
There is a huge difference between stating statistical facts that some might dislike but are true, and advocating a racist ideology.
“To the extent that any individual subscribes to the tenets of Conservatism, welcome aboard!”
Do you realize there are conservative blacks on this forum who have been here years longer than you?
How “welcome” do you think they feel when a member of this forum actually advocates for taking away the right for black people to vote?
“And there is no question but that a goodly number of Blacks have achieved success, but they have characteristically NOT USED THEIR GOOD FORTUNE TO HELP THE LESS FORTUNATE MEMBERS OF THEIR ETHNIC GROUP.”
Why should THEY, that is the successful blacks, do any more for black people than successful white people should?
My father did. He was never very successful financially, but he was a great man. He spent a lot of time on this forum in his later years. When he was young, he went into all-black housing projects and taught Bible studies for kids and teenagers. He took them to church and Christian camps. He brought them over to our home to eat meals with us. When he needed to hire some help with work at the house, he would look for opportunities to hire these black teenagers.
These things alone did not transform our society, but he did his part to help. Some of the kids he worked with did become successful in school and work, and came back and thanked him for his help.
Conservatism recognizes that the government is woefully inefficient at “helping” people. Charity is a function of faith. All religions that have any validity, have charitable activities.
“My daughter dates a man who is mixed race, and he looks African.”
I’m not sure if you’re sharing this to give some sort of support to the idea that you are not a racist, or some other reason. I hope, for your and your daughter’s sake that he is a good man.
You stated that he experiences some negative treatment due to race, and he understands this. I wonder how hurt he would feel, and how hurt your daughter would feel, if they realized you were advocating that blacks should not have the right to vote.
I think you should face the reality that you were wrong to state such a horrible thing, and you should post an apology to the conservative blacks on this forum. And you should thank them for going against the grain of society and often, their own families, in order to support what is right.
Do you think you can send me a nasty email, telling me to go to hell and then just walk away when you are the one who is in the wrong?
That’s not going to happen. You posted something that you should not have. You violated the terms of this website, and acted against common decency as well.
For someone who is a veteran and advanced in years, you are showing hubris and a deficit in moral courage. This is inconsistent with your service to the country, the wisdom that should go with your years, and the conservatism you profess to espouse.
You are nearing the end of your life, and you tell me to go to hell for reproving your error. You need to consider your own eternal destiny rather than trying to dictate mine.
I’ve read many of your posts, and you usually have good things to say. I usually find myself agreeing with you. But this does not make it right when you say blacks should not be allowed to vote. You said that. Your post got deleted, rightly. But instead of manning up and apologizing, you defend, blame, excuse, and attack.
I politely reproved your error earlier because of your age and service to this country. You should have thanked me for the correction. You should have admitted you were in the wrong. You should have apologized to those who you insulted with your remarks. Instead you’ve chosen to double down.
You offended some of the black, Christian conservatives on this forum who have been here longer than you. You emailed to tell me to go to hell. They emailed me to express appreciation for standing up for black conservatives on this forum. This is not a place where they should feel rejected and isolated. It is a place where they should feel welcome.
And you and anyone who holds such views as you are refusing to denounce need to be aware that advocating such egregious views is not merely hurting the feelings of fellow conservatives, it damages the image and reputation of this website, all FReepers, and all conservatives. That’s why it can not remain unchallenged.