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To: itsahoot

also ... IF the data is in the cloud the data is stored as encrypted data. Apple would have to deliver the unencrypted data or the keys so LEAs can retrieve the data. At least that’s how it used to work. Been out of that area for a while.


14 posted on 11/20/2017 4:29:31 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

“IF the data is in the cloud the data is stored as encrypted data. Apple would have to deliver the unencrypted data or the keys “

Apple doesn’t hold any “keys” and to my knowledge cannot realistically create them. They can demand all they want to decipher the encrypted data and i don’t think it can be.


17 posted on 11/20/2017 4:34:46 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: plain talk
IF the data is in the cloud the data is stored as encrypted data. Apple would have to deliver the unencrypted data or the keys so LEAs can retrieve the data. At least that’s how it used to work. Been out of that area for a while.

Apple only has to deliver what it has. If the data is encrypted, Apple is only obligated to decrypt it if it has possession of the keys. IF Kelley encrypted it with HIS key, then Apple is not in possession of the key and is obligated to only turn over the raw data they possess. It is then up to the law enforcers to find a way to decipher the raw data. The police agencies can, if they wish, enlist Apple's assistance to do that for a reasonable fee. Apple is free to accept the contract or not.

30 posted on 11/20/2017 6:49:46 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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