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To: ETL

OK, so far I have discovered that you have posted two photoshopped icons of a stalin “icon” from an anarchist website.

In response, you posted a picture of an “icon” on a tank.

You tried to pretend that this is popular in the faith and sanctioned by the Russian Orthodox Church.

But a brief search proves you are again spreading misinformation, the truth is the opposite —

“Responding to the controversy, the Archdiocese of the Belgorod region slammed the painting, saying that the image cannot be counted as an icon, and verges on blasphemy:

“Although the painting is done in the style of an icon, for many reasons, it cannot be considered as such. Firstly, none of the depicted historical personalities are counted as canonized saints by the Russian Orthodox Church. Secondly, some of those pictured in the painting were persecutors of the Church.”

The Archdiocese suggested that the painting “serves as a manifesto and illustration of the idea of a ‘civil religion’, which is opposed to revealed religion and to the Orthodox Church.”

Pointing out that monk priest Athenogenes is not a member of the Belgorod Archdiocese, the Church’s statement also noted that participants in Thursday’s celebrations did not appreciate the painting’s presence, “expressing their confusion and frustration about the pseudo-religious views being imposed on them.”

This is not the first time in post-Soviet Russian history that lone religious figures and believers have attempted to fuse images of Stalin with those of Orthodox Christianity. A scandal blew up in St. Petersburg in 2008 surround a painting entitled ‘Matron and Stalin’, featuring the controversial leader’s alleged wartime meeting with the Blessed Eldress of Moscow, a canonized 20th century Orthodox Saint. The ‘icon’s’ presence in a local church led to the dismissal of the priest who had hung it up, despite the priests’ protestations that Stalin was a man of faith.

Stalin’s relations with the Russian Orthodox Church were complicated. On the one hand, the leader was responsible for the terrible persecution and near-destruction of the Church as a social entity during the 1930s, with tens of thousands of priests, monks and nuns dismissed, imprisoned or killed, and many churches shut down, destroyed or converted into museums and warehouses. On the other hand, relations with the Church improved dramatically during the Second World War, when it was revived as a patriotic organization, a relationship which continued until Nikita Khrushchev launched another wave of persecution, this time less brutal.


60 posted on 11/11/2017 4:08:41 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

There is a divide even within Russian Orthodoxy between genuine believers and statists, and even genuine believers wrestling with their statism. Its rough.


64 posted on 11/11/2017 4:21:45 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Mount Athos

It certainly wasn’t intentional on my part if those two related pics (from the same source, so you say) were photoshoped. I had never seen them before. I simply grabbed them off of Google Images following a search for Stalin + Russian Orthodox Church.


70 posted on 11/11/2017 4:35:29 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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