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Ukraine Turns to American Coal to Defend Itself Against Russia
Te Daily Signal ^ | November 9, 2017 | Nolan Peterson

Posted on 11/10/2017 10:55:20 PM PST by EliRoom8

As Russia’s hybrid war against Ukraine nears its fifth calendar year—and as Ukraine’s infamously cold winter draws near—American companies are incrementally cutting into Russia’s de facto monopoly as a supplier of nuclear fuel and coal to Ukraine, thereby undermining a longtime coercive lever of Russian influence over Kyiv.

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KEYWORDS: coal; energy; energydominance; russia; ukraine
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Thank you, President Trump and all the coal miners who are keeping us warm in Kyiv.
1 posted on 11/10/2017 10:55:20 PM PST by EliRoom8
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To: EliRoom8
Just President Donald J. Trmp's MAGA Energy Policy in action.

Selling Coal, LNG and Oil to Europe puts the squeeze on Russia.

Meanwhile...exports of Coal LNG and Oil to Asia continue at an increasing pace.

Did I mention the first OIL exports to India last month...?

2 posted on 11/10/2017 11:08:57 PM PST by spokeshave (The Fake Media tried to stop us from going to the White House, I am President and they are not. DJT)
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To: EliRoom8

Wait, I was told we were colluding with Russia. Now it appears we are colluding against Russia.


3 posted on 11/10/2017 11:46:08 PM PST by AZLiberty (The logical endpoint of "zero-tolerance history" is zero history.)
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To: spokeshave

Yay! Are there any other current or former Russia expats on this forum?

Putin has taken great advantage of the moral and spiritual weakness of the West. He is a Stalin-wannabe fraud who has robbed his people blind all while claiming to be the standard bearer for Christian virtue the evil “fascist” West has lost. When we in America live up to our values, frauds like Putin will be yield no more power and even Russia can be free.

He got Crimea, but he made a huge miscalculation on Ukraine.


4 posted on 11/10/2017 11:52:44 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: EliRoom8

Oh you are in Ukraine. Im a former St. Petersburg resident. :) hope to visit Ukraine one day, but I hear Poroshenko is bad news and that Trump admin will stop short of providing weapons. Thoughts?


5 posted on 11/10/2017 11:56:34 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Ukrainians are a good and hard working people as a rule. However 70 plus years of Russian communism did them great harm. Their leadership is hopelessly corrupt. They are still doing better than Russia.
If you go to Kiev go in spring when the trees on Kreschatic street are in bloom. Gorgeous.


6 posted on 11/11/2017 1:02:52 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

One of State Department orientation/cone training classmates was stationed in the Embassy (Georgia) when the Russian’s rolled thru the small country’s defenses. As I recall, the Ruskies stopped at a certain bridge but it was all over at that point.


7 posted on 11/11/2017 3:31:17 AM PST by Jumper
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To: EliRoom8
Thank you, President Trump and all the coal miners who are keeping us warm in Kyiv.

Just curious...how much more expensive is it to keep warm in Kiev these days?

8 posted on 11/11/2017 6:06:17 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: EliRoom8

Ukraine should convert RR to standard gauge. This would facilitate transportation to Ukraine from Gdansk, and bypass Straits of Bosporus should this be necessary.


9 posted on 11/11/2017 6:21:38 AM PST by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: mac_truck

Ukrainian-Russian coal is like $60-70, American is like $130-150.


10 posted on 11/11/2017 6:49:56 AM PST by NorseViking
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I don’t think so according to most sites.
http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/coal/all/
More like $40.00 p.t. for thermal coal.


11 posted on 11/11/2017 7:04:55 AM PST by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Thanks! I plan to.l and will keep Spring in mind.

I have some ancestry from Odessa from when it was part of the empire. :)


12 posted on 11/11/2017 7:22:30 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Doulos1

Transportation cost money and there are middlemen, kickbacks and so on.


13 posted on 11/11/2017 8:26:07 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Jimmy Valentine

“They are still doing better than Russia.”

Nonsense. Ukraine is what Russia would be if Yesltin was still in charge.


14 posted on 11/11/2017 11:34:16 AM PST by WatchungEagle
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To: EliRoom8
Ukraine used to burn domestic coal for generating electricity. Their coal mines are in Donbass what stands for "the Don's (a river) Coal Basin", which hasn't been in the governmental control since 2014. Their power plants are tailored to use a specific sort of coal, and renovating to anything else would be very expensive while Ukraine is cash-strapped. So they still bought Donbass coal and would have liked to continue doing this until some radical activists pressed the government from doing this.

Now they have to import coal from South Africa and the USA, since a compatible sort isn't found everywhere and pay the transportation which makes a big proportion in the cost od this cheap commodity.

15 posted on 11/14/2017 1:17:33 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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The Ukrainian power plants use anthracite and I'm not sure that you've cited its prices.

Add the shipping cost too.

16 posted on 11/14/2017 1:21:06 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: EliRoom8

I can’t believe you can ship coal all the way from the US to Ukraine without it costing alot. I hope we are not subsidizing this with tax dollars. Can’t Ukraine find another supplier with all their EU buddies now?


17 posted on 11/14/2017 1:34:25 AM PST by McGruff (Lock Her Up! In a Padded Cell!)
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No. They need anthracite. It’s not found everywhere.


18 posted on 11/14/2017 1:49:19 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

No thoughts about that. We are not touched by the war much in Kyiv but we are by the cold weather. Perhaps due to energy rationing we lose hot water for weeks at a time.
As for Poroshenko, I like the work he’s doing here, but I’m a relative newbie to the area. Most of the Ukranians I’ve spoken to are lukewarm about him.


19 posted on 11/14/2017 2:45:41 AM PST by EliRoom8
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Perhaps due to energy rationing we lose hot water for weeks at a time.

I think that was an annual off-service period due to the pipeline maintenance needs. It's common in the ex-USSR countries which run district heating.

20 posted on 11/15/2017 12:09:55 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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