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To: PeteePie

Nope, not a chance. They were no match for American productivity, had a crappy geography, and were morally bankrupt (which does affect outcomes).

The Krauts were doomed


13 posted on 11/09/2017 7:26:39 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: DesertRhino

There is a lot of “what if” speculation out there but the truth is that Germany never had a realistic chance of winning WWII, and mostly by luck did they win such a stunning victory in France. Invading Russia was a bridge too far and declaring war on the United States was a suicidal decision.


35 posted on 11/09/2017 8:21:22 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: DesertRhino

I respect your point, in time, and probably a lot of it, the Germans would’ve lost a war of attrition in the East. We can’t ignore the pressures from other Allied fronts either and what that did to force them to shuffle limited forces.

While the American production miracle was unprecedented, what is also amazing is what Russian industry pulled off, being as most of the pre-existing infrastructure and supply chain had been overrun by the Krauts.

Both sides were essentially morally bankrupt. The Germans killed innocents on their way in, the Russians raped what was left on the way out. There was a lot of under-toned sentiment that said ‘let them bleed each other to death.”


49 posted on 11/09/2017 11:00:49 AM PST by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: DesertRhino

Au contraire. The Germans might well have succeeded in winning the war. Long term control over 200 million people would have been another problem. All scenarios which have Germany winning in Russian in 1941-42 show them having a very hard time holding onto all the territory for very long due to partisan and sabotage.


58 posted on 11/09/2017 4:51:38 PM PST by tom h
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