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To: DesertRhino

I respect your point, in time, and probably a lot of it, the Germans would’ve lost a war of attrition in the East. We can’t ignore the pressures from other Allied fronts either and what that did to force them to shuffle limited forces.

While the American production miracle was unprecedented, what is also amazing is what Russian industry pulled off, being as most of the pre-existing infrastructure and supply chain had been overrun by the Krauts.

Both sides were essentially morally bankrupt. The Germans killed innocents on their way in, the Russians raped what was left on the way out. There was a lot of under-toned sentiment that said ‘let them bleed each other to death.”


49 posted on 11/09/2017 11:00:49 AM PST by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: PeteePie

>I respect your point, in time, and probably a lot of it, the Germans would’ve lost a war of attrition in the East. We can’t ignore the pressures from other Allied fronts either and what that did to force them to shuffle limited forces.

>While the American production miracle was unprecedented, what is also amazing is what Russian industry pulled off, being as most of the pre-existing infrastructure and supply chain had been overrun by the Krauts.

>Both sides were essentially morally bankrupt. The Germans killed innocents on their way in, the Russians raped what was left on the way out. There was a lot of under-toned sentiment that said ‘let them bleed each other to death.”

Russian production numbers mostly lies. Telling Stalin the truth about Soviet Industry was a good way to get shot so actual production was 1/2 to a 1/3 of the reported levels. It was American gear, food, gasoline, weapons, radios, planes, ect that kept Russia in the war.

Without American support, Russia would have collapsed in 1943 once Germany took away their primary farming zones. As it was, Russia was completely out of fresh manpower by 1944.


77 posted on 11/09/2017 10:17:42 PM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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