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NYT Amnesia: Not a ‘Single Instance’ of Self-Defense With Guns
MRC NewsBusters ^ | 11/06/2017 | Chris Reeves

Posted on 11/06/2017 4:48:19 PM PST by ForYourChildren

In the aftermath of Sunday’s deadly mass shooting at a Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, Morning Joe’s panel spent much of the broadcast repeatedly calling for gun control and trying to delegitimize the concept of gun ownership for the purpose of self-defense. At one point in the show, New York Times columnist Bret Stephens insisted that there wasn’t a “single instance” that conservatives could point to of anyone “us[ing] their guns to protect their liberties.” Bizarrely, Stephens had already forgotten that it was a citizen armed with a gun who stopped yesterday’s massacre from becoming even more horrendous.

For the most part, the MSNBC morning show used their discussion of the shooting to advocate over and over again for expanded background checks to prevent people like the shooter from acquiring guns. Regardless of the fact that initial reports (which were brought up on the show) already suggested that the background check system as it exists should have prevented the mass shooter from acquiring guns, the panel repeatedly demonized Republicans and the NRA as having blood on their hands for preventing “common sense” gun control.

In continuation of these inane talking points, the panel had Stephens on to rehash his arguments for repealing the Second Amendment on “conservative” grounds (Stephens originally made his case in an op-ed for NYT after the Las Vegas mass shooting):

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1 posted on 11/06/2017 4:48:19 PM PST by ForYourChildren
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To: ForYourChildren

New York Times columnist Bret Stephens insisted that there wasn’t a “single instance” that conservatives could point to of anyone “us[ing] their guns to protect their liberties.”

Bizarrely, Stephens had already forgotten that it was a citizen armed with a gun who stopped yesterday’s massacre from becoming even more horrendous.


2 posted on 11/06/2017 4:48:36 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

bunch of LIARS!!!


3 posted on 11/06/2017 4:48:53 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

Guns Don’t Kill People; People Kill People.

I want guns kept in the right hands - and in more of them.


4 posted on 11/06/2017 4:50:55 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: ForYourChildren
Bret could have looked up how anywhere from hundreds of thousands to millions of people defend themselves and their loved ones with guns from violent criminals every year. How many thousands or millions of people need to protect their most important liberty–the right to life–before Bret will consider it a “single instance"?
5 posted on 11/06/2017 4:51:19 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

The CDC studied gun violence in 2013, after Obama’s order, and found a wealth of facts that didn’t fit the narrative that guns are dangerous. And that’s why the study didn’t receive the attention it deserved.

“..defensive gun uses by victims.. with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year,...”


6 posted on 11/06/2017 4:53:46 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

The armed citizen is the first responder.


7 posted on 11/06/2017 4:57:46 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

He should spend more time on Free Republic ... those are reported here almost weekly.


8 posted on 11/06/2017 4:58:33 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (If GOP won House, Senate and Presidency...why are the Democrats still in charge?)
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To: ForYourChildren

Every house that isn’t robbed because the burglar worries about a gun is an act of a firearm being used as self defense.


9 posted on 11/06/2017 4:59:24 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: ForYourChildren

wasn’t a “single instance” that conservatives could point to of anyone “us[ing] their guns to protect their liberties.”


Hmmm... Doesn’t read history, I guess. What about the American Revolution? What about the Texas Revolution?


10 posted on 11/06/2017 5:01:11 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: ForYourChildren

The idiot NeverTrumper fake conservative Bret Stephens forgets the police only respond after a crime has already happened.

Before that, individuals have a duty to protect themselves. Moreover, its settled case law going back to the 19th Century the police have only a duty to protect the community at large.

We are all responsible for protecting ourselves and the lives of others and the Second Amendment affords us the opportunity to do that by being armed.

We can never and should never - rely upon the state to keep us safe.


11 posted on 11/06/2017 5:02:04 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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...Bizarrely, Stephens had already forgotten that it was a citizen armed with a gun who stopped yesterday’s massacre..
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Not a lapse of memory. Another democrat lie which we have become so used to. This isn’t gaining any new Democrat voters.
It’s an embarrassment to see.


12 posted on 11/06/2017 5:02:44 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: ForYourChildren

I guess these people also can not remember that poor police response time was cited as the reason for the high death tolls achieved by the perps at Columbine High School or Ecole Polytechnique or Sandy Hook. And gee, I guess ones like Morning Joe would have been happy to know that Mao or Hitler or Pol Pot did not have to worry about citizens defending themselves.


13 posted on 11/06/2017 5:03:28 PM PST by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Yeah, tells you about what he reads....has no idea.


14 posted on 11/06/2017 5:03:39 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: ForYourChildren

All he has to do is search for the NRA’s Armed Citizen.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/the-armed-citizen

So now not only do jUrnialists twist stories to cover the narrative*, ignore stories that do not adhere to the narrative, but now they’ll just plain LIE to continue to push the narrative.

*Guns are bad


15 posted on 11/06/2017 5:04:28 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: ForYourChildren

Especially the citizen under imminent threat of losing his life.

That is when one must act as time is of the essence and by the time the police arrive to save you, it will be probably be too late.


16 posted on 11/06/2017 5:04:58 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: ForYourChildren

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What does a popular Fishwrap know?
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17 posted on 11/06/2017 5:06:05 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ForYourChildren
There are many "Self-Defense With Guns" cases when said gun is never fired. It may be the majority.

18 posted on 11/06/2017 5:06:24 PM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: ForYourChildren

“Oklahoma Man Uses AR-15 to Kill Three Teen Home Intruders”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-man-uses-ar-15-kill-three-teen-home-intruders-n739541

Gee, is that AR-15 that used for self-defense just “a rifle,” or is it an “assault weapon.”

Well, since it was used for self-defense, it must just be “a rifle.”


19 posted on 11/06/2017 5:07:02 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Alas Babylon!

Here’s one from last month’s Armed Citizen with a happy ending. For the New Yawk Times viewing pleasure:

The Armed Citizen® Extra
Two men broke into a house in northern California late one Wednesday night in an attempt to rob the place. Unfortunately for them, one of the residents shot both intruders, killing them. The police said that at least one of the robbers had a gun, presenting a threat. The homeowner has not been charged. (The Mercury News, Brentwood, CA, 6/27/17)


20 posted on 11/06/2017 5:08:17 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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