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Official report on the two US Navy ship collisions this past summer is scathing. Sounds like a clearly disgraceful level of training and operations. Scary stuff.
1 posted on 11/02/2017 7:14:15 AM PDT by Enchante
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I bet the Navy is getting better now.


2 posted on 11/02/2017 7:17:21 AM PDT by WeWaWes (When I look in the mirror I see an elephant--a bad ass elephant)
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PC hits the Nav


3 posted on 11/02/2017 7:17:24 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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I can't stay online to read the report right now, but I post the link here for anyone with time to examine this. Looks like a lot of good info:

US Navy official reports on 2017 collisions
4 posted on 11/02/2017 7:18:21 AM PDT by Enchante (Bill, Anthony, Harvey .... how does lesbo Hillary manage to surround herself with male predators???)
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Sounds like a clearly disgraceful level of training and operations. Scary stuff.

The bean-counters and social scientists are now in charge of operations.

5 posted on 11/02/2017 7:18:54 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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The Crew of the Mayflower displayed better seamanship than these clowns!

This won’t get better until we get back to rewarding military professionalism and stop the absurd Political Correctness that is destroying our Armed Forces!


6 posted on 11/02/2017 7:33:26 AM PDT by Gunner TLW
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Nephew was in the navy right out of high school and was trained to work in the boiler room. He often had to work 2-3 days straight because there was no one able to relieve him of duty. When he finally got off his shift, he only had six hours to shower, sleep and eat. This schedule often did not allow him to even get to the mess in time for meals, so many days he ate most of his meals from care packages his mom sent.

I don’t think its the training, but the extremely demanding schedules all the navy is under due to lack of personnel and increasing demands which put them out to sea for longer periods.

My nephew never told anyone the conditions under he worked until just recently when we asked him specific questions. He said it was a miracle there aren’t more accidents given how exhausted everyone is on board.


9 posted on 11/02/2017 8:00:36 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus (iI)
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LGBT and lady sailors anyone?


10 posted on 11/02/2017 8:02:46 AM PDT by Dont tread and Live
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Read the story.....marked for later commenting


12 posted on 11/02/2017 8:20:55 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Repeal & replace Obamacare, tax reform, fix infrastructure, fixin military, Israel, kill enemies)
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Im embarrassed to say this, but I guess it was a good decision to not enlist in the Navy in 2003.


15 posted on 11/02/2017 8:39:05 AM PDT by wastedyears ("Mr President, we must not allow a mine-shaft gap!")
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It’s cuz they gots lax on they groomin’ standards. Once the groomin’ standards gits lax, other standards fall.


16 posted on 11/02/2017 9:08:58 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Smoke does not mean fire when someone threw a smoke grenade.)
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I bet they know all about the dangers of global warming tho.


17 posted on 11/02/2017 9:09:32 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Smoke does not mean fire when someone threw a smoke grenade.)
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And along the same lines as the comment I read at Instapundit.com, I bet those ship drivers got 100% on their diversity training test and they also know how to handle the situation when a transgender person comes into the bathroom with them.

JoMa


22 posted on 11/02/2017 10:12:24 AM PDT by joma89
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We are a Navy that learns from mistakes and the Navy is firmly committed to doing everything possible to prevent an accident like this from happening again,”

We are now issuing corrective orders. TO ALL SHIPS: LOOK OUT THE WINDOW. END.


25 posted on 11/02/2017 1:54:08 PM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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Sounds like the Obama Navy to me. His cut backs of good military personnel and officers and this type thing is what we get.

I was on active duty after Vietnam. The Army severely lowered standards to get people into the Army after the draft ended. Because of the Vietnam war, the protesting, etc., good people did not come in. We got men with very low GT scores (that is the general aptitude test that you do when you do testing as you enlist). Used to be you had to have a score around 100 if I remember right. A score of 90 basically meant you were a dummy. I had a soldier with a GT score of something like 75. He could not remember how to do anything. Show him something and in 15 minutes he had forgotten how. It was not until the 1980s that good, smart, competent troops started coming back to the military. After Nam, it was called the hollow Army because we were so short of troops. My unit in Germany was suppose to have like 150 men in our company. We had less than 100. So, obammy screwing with the military brings back those years to me.

27 posted on 11/02/2017 4:12:42 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (We are in the Last Days of human history. Jesus is coming back, & soon! Do U know Him?)
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They need to go back to the system where your class, level of education, and IQ determine what your duties are in the military. It used to be that officers were usually college graduates, and the enlisted were high school or lower. Officers need to do the critical, decision on the fly duties, and the enlisted need to do the formulaic duties they are trained for and assigned.

One big problem is that “college graduates” ain’t what they used to be. They need to depend on cultural background research and intelligence testing to discriminate between officer candidates and enlistee material.

But they won’t.


33 posted on 11/03/2017 7:29:21 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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That is what happens when you base promotions on social engineering instead of merit. What is even more scary, these promotions were bases on merit but recruitment was based on social engineering and the Military recruited lesser quality volunteers.
34 posted on 11/03/2017 7:32:55 AM PDT by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!)
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“homo” sailors and “heads for the females” are only part of the problem.

Ship command is regarded only as an afterthought these days. Just another 2-year ticket punch.
Some sailors were trained and prepared for years before they assumed command of capital ships, and it was not their first “at-sea” posting. Multiple division head tours and a good turn as an XO were mandatory.

Surface warfare training has suffered as well. Naval aviation and nuclear power schools still have their specialized programs, but apparently, somewhere along the way, even basic seamanship is being left deficient.

35 posted on 11/03/2017 8:31:18 AM PDT by Kodos the Executioner (.. the revolution is successful, but survival depends upon drastic measures..")
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