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Sarah Sanders Shuts Down Civil War Controversy: You Cannot Erase History Just Because
breitbart.com ^ | 10/31/2017 | Charlie Spiering

Posted on 11/01/2017 6:57:59 AM PDT by rktman

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders dismissed questions from the media about White House Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly’s comments about the Civil War.

When asked by reporters if the White House thought that the comments were “offensive,” Sanders replied ‘No.”

“Because you don’t like history, doesn’t mean that you can erase it and pretend that it didn’t happen,” she said. “I think that’s the point that General Kelly was trying to make, and to try to create something and push a narrative that simply doesn’t exist is just, frankly, outrageous and absurd.”

Kelly said in an interview with Laura Ingraham that he believed it was wrong to judge historical figures by modern standards, and defended Civil War general Robert E. Lee as an “honorable man.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: antihistory; charlottesville; dixie; purge; smackdown
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To: rktman

Sarah should say something to the following effect the next time this issue comes up (like today or tomorrow):

“You know, I remember when a bunch of religious shrines were destroyed in Afghanistan by the Taliban, before 9/11. They didn’t like that history, so they destroyed it. Do you want to be bunched in with them? Do you want to be known as ‘the American Taliban?’ If so, keep doing and saying what you’re doing and saying now. If not, then understand that History happened. Understand that we cannot change it by tearing down statues, or judging people born 200 years ago by today’s standards. What we CAN do, and SHOULD do, is learn from History - so that we don’t make the same mistakes. Obviously, none of you have, since you seem to believe that erasing History somehow changes it.”


21 posted on 11/01/2017 7:41:22 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: rktman

She is really great. I agree that being a mom uniquely qualifies someone to deal with the WH press corps


22 posted on 11/01/2017 7:42:02 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rktman

Help me understand this. It’s my understanding that Islam is largely responsible for the historical slave trade and currently enslaves people. Where’s the outcry? Do I have that right?


23 posted on 11/01/2017 7:46:17 AM PDT by Paco
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To: rktman
The more the proglib comrats try to steal art, haul down flags and hide names, the more they demonstrate to the world how much they fear the facts of history.

But they need to be confronted with bare facts in order to prove not to them but to others around them that are watching just how nuts they really are.

So let them argue with this...

"Stealing art, hauling down flags and hiding names is NOT a time machine."

Repeat as necessary.

.

24 posted on 11/01/2017 7:46:56 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Flaming Conservative

Thanks...cleanonline.com? (I couldn’t get the page to load)


25 posted on 11/01/2017 7:51:01 AM PDT by goodnesswins (There are only TWO Races. The Decent Race, and the Indecent Race. (Frankl))
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To: Ben Ficklin

Of course the Confederate statues were not erected during the Civil War. The south was much too busy trying to defend their sovereignity and keep their families safe -— had no time to make and erect statues.

The memorials were erected after the Late Unpleasantness had ended to honor those who honored their heritage and fought bravely to protect it, Men such as Gen. Robert E. Lee, CSA President Jefferson Davis, Gen. Stand Watie, Gen. “Stonewell” Jackson, and so many others.


26 posted on 11/01/2017 7:51:18 AM PDT by varina davis (WHOEVER TELLS IT LIKE IT IS FOR 2020)
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To: goodnesswins

It is live streamed on youtube.


27 posted on 11/01/2017 7:55:55 AM PDT by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

She sure is quick - I have found myself saying wow she thought of that right on the spot. I think she has been very impressive. It does seem like she is dealing with children.


28 posted on 11/01/2017 8:00:09 AM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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To: McGavin999
OH, like whining ungrateful little snots that they are?😹
29 posted on 11/01/2017 8:26:45 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Ben Ficklin

...Changing facts? Revising history?
The statues were put up to change the facts and revise the history...

The Korean war was lost. So was Vietnam. Want to tear those memorials down too?


30 posted on 11/01/2017 9:39:16 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: varina davis
The south fought the civil war because of the economic benefits of slavery.

The statues were built for the culture of slavery. Slavery had been place so long it became part of the culture.

32 posted on 11/01/2017 11:05:08 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Sasparilla

I don’t know of any memorials of Korea or Vietnam that were put up 50 years after the fact.


33 posted on 11/01/2017 11:09:24 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: ohioman

I hate to tell you this but the demographics are changing and you have been overtaken by time.


34 posted on 11/01/2017 11:11:17 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Ben have you ever read a first hand account of a Southern soldier in the Civil War? You need to read a few. They were not fighting for slavery at all.


35 posted on 11/01/2017 11:13:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Very few benefited from slavery. As a matter of fact the average southern farmer had to compete with huge factory farms the utilized slave labor.


36 posted on 11/01/2017 11:18:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
That is a common myth about slavery in the south that has been shot down over and over.

Not everybody owned slaves and slave ownership varied among the slave states.

Some didn't have the means to own but they aspired to and as they matured and became more affluent they would own. Some that didn't own would hire slave labor from those that did.

Some parts of the south were highland areas and not good for farming. Arkansas was one of the lowest percent slave ownership states but those that did own, owned large numbers and slaves were often transported up the rivers for seasonal work. Mountain Home Ark was named by seasonal slaves. Today it is livestock grazing and the only thing farmed is hay.

Slavery permeated the entire economy and it was the foundation of the only way of life the south had known for hundreds of years and that is what they fought to preserve.

37 posted on 11/01/2017 12:35:00 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

My ancestors from Roanoke were carpenters and never owned slaves. Some were masons too. As far as “aspiring” to own a slave, I have no clue. A slave in the 1850’s cost $100,000 in today’s money. So probably not that many had that inspiration.


38 posted on 11/01/2017 12:53:32 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rktman

Kelly said in an interview with Laura Ingraham that he believed it was wrong to judge historical figures by modern standards, and defended Civil War general Robert E. Lee as an “honorable man.”

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Many on the Union side thought that Lee was honorable before, during, and after the war. The Union wanted him on their side. His wife wanted him to go with the Union, but Lee chose to be loyal to his state.


39 posted on 11/01/2017 12:56:27 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: central_va
Just because your carpenter ancestors didn't own slaves doesn't mean he didn't benefit from slavery or he wouldn't be willing to fight to preserve slavery.

Slavery was the foundation or cornerstone of the economy and without slavery the overall economy was dead.

Or that there may have been times when your ancestor had to do some hot and dirty work and would seek out some with a couple of slaves to do it.

I never hired illegals but there were a few times when I had to do something that was hard, hot, and nasty which I would subcontract out to someone that did hire illegals.

40 posted on 11/01/2017 1:39:08 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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