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Trump's Pardoning Powers Could Be Limited After Mueller's First Indictment
Newsweek via Yahoo ^ | October 29th, 2017 | Jason Silverstein

Posted on 10/29/2017 3:23:28 PM PDT by Mariner

With the first indictment looming from the federal Trump-Russia investigation, President Donald Trump is getting a reminder: His pardoning pardons can’t fix everything.

“I don't think the president's power is all that absolute, as people have been suggesting,” California Representative Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, told ABC News’ “This Week” Sunday.

“The president cannot pardon people if it's an effort to obstruct justice, if it's an effort to prevent Bob Mueller and others from learning about the President's own conduct. So, there are limitations.”

Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who has been investigating the Trump campaign’s potential Russia ties, is expected to unseal his first criminal charges as early as Monday.

Schiff said he has not been told who will be hit by the indictments, but he believes based on press reports that it will either be former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort or former national security adviser Michael Flynn. Both men resigned from their positions after controversy over their ties to foreign governments, which Mueller has been scrutinizing.

If Trump tries to pardon whoever faces charges, he could several major hurdles.

The Constitution allows the president broad powers to pardon people for “Offenses against the United States." There is no precedent for a sitting president pardoning people tied to his campaign, as will likely be the case for Mueller’s debut indictment.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adamschiff; manafort; pardons; president; russia; schiff; trump; trumprussia
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To: Mariner

“If Trump tries to pardon whoever faces charges, he could several major hurdles.”

One again proving that modern liberal journalist’s can’t even write.


101 posted on 10/29/2017 5:39:52 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Mariner
Schiff indulges in wishful thinking. The presidential power of the pardon is granted especially for just such cases of persecution for political reasons.
102 posted on 10/29/2017 5:44:24 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: kiryandil
🙀😹yup.
103 posted on 10/29/2017 5:50:15 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Jim from C-Town; Timmy; gov_bean_ counter
There is no limit as to the power of the President when it comes to Pardoning Powers. That is Constitution 101 stuff.

The President’s power to pardon is absolute. The constitution places no check on it.

Sorry, but the president can pardon anyone he jolly well pleases.


AGREED - but watch the RINOs like McStain, Flake, and Linda try and pass an UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW limiting THIS unconventional President - Bubba or Obie not so much as a peep.
104 posted on 10/29/2017 6:02:04 PM PDT by Cheerio (#44, The unknown President)
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To: Mariner

That guy dont know schiff.

Heh.


105 posted on 10/29/2017 6:07:37 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: Mariner

ah, like Marc Rich...whose wife gave Clinton millions after the pardon.
Thank God Mary Jo White stepped down from investigating the pardon, turning the investigation over to: wait for it....wait for it....Jim Comey.


106 posted on 10/29/2017 6:24:31 PM PDT by stylin19a (Best.Election.Ever)
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To: Mariner

Adam Schniff should wear his undersized shiny purple plastic cowboy hat so he can blend in with the rest of the Democrat brain trust.


107 posted on 10/29/2017 6:26:01 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Mariner

The Adam Repulsiveness Rating = 9.9


108 posted on 10/29/2017 6:29:05 PM PDT by Kalamata (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: Timmy

“The President’s power to pardon is absolute. The constitution places no check on it.”

There is a very firm check on the president’s ability to pardon, they can impeach, convict and remove the president from office.

That is however, the only check that exists.


109 posted on 10/29/2017 6:55:25 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Mariner

His prosecuting powers wouldn’t be limited. He will be able to prosecute a war against very nearby enemies if necessary.


110 posted on 10/29/2017 7:09:14 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: TomGuy; Electric Graffiti

Who would have “standing” to get the case to the Supreme Court? My theory is that no one would be able to show a legally protectible and tangible interest at stake to bring the case. It appears the only recourse would be through Congressional impeachment and removal.


111 posted on 10/29/2017 7:13:00 PM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: Mariner

Schiff’s an F-ing idiot. Prez pardon IS absolute for Fed crimes.


112 posted on 10/29/2017 7:41:48 PM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Mariner

“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so. “ —— RonaldReagan


113 posted on 10/29/2017 7:53:55 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Jim from C-Town

The limit is that it must be a federal offense


114 posted on 10/29/2017 8:08:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stand and honor the flag --- locking arms BS doesn't cut it)
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To: Mariner
Let's see what is a foot first. The Speculation is that Mueller is saying Manaford did things in 2012 to 2014 that may have violated money laundering regulations and possibly as early as 2004. Certainly, Trump was not running for President in any of those years.

So what gives? Was chess master Putin, trying to get a cozy relationship with a Republican who could get him access to a future Presidential candidate in the 2016 election?

Hardly.

Is Mueller trying to get any dirt he can and use it to threaten (aka Blackmail) people close to Trump so they will say anything Mueller wants them to say? Possibly.

We shall learn more in the coming weeks.

This could be the start of a Deep State civil war.

115 posted on 10/29/2017 8:35:41 PM PDT by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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To: Mariner

“The president cannot pardon people if it’s an effort to obstruct justice”

Tell that to Ford.

Tell that to Clinton.

Tell that to Obama.


116 posted on 10/29/2017 8:41:15 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Mariner

Trump can pardon anyone for any federal crime. Period. The Constitution does not put limits on his power.


117 posted on 10/29/2017 8:52:22 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
All of Clinton's last-minute pardons were probably done to obstruct justice, so, guess what? Thanks Mariner.

118 posted on 10/29/2017 9:25:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Mariner

Any trial of this nature in a federal court would be a prosecution of a crime against the United States.

And, no, the president’s ability to pardon is unlimited.


119 posted on 10/29/2017 10:18:49 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Mariner

I doubt that Trump will pardon Mueller.


120 posted on 10/29/2017 10:21:22 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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