self determination is the ultimate right of any people. The Catalans have every right to self-determination.
Madrid zealously supported Slovenian & Croatian independence in 1992 after „illegal“ referendums. Why is this time different ?
Madrid lost all legitimacy when it unleashed paramilitaries upon peaceful people trying to vote. When one needs to bludgeon little old ladies for peacefully expressing a opinion; you no longer have any legitimacy to govern.
EU Official Says No One Will Recognize Catalonia>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The EU and the Spanish government had better eat a few smarten up pills. They need to negotiate fiercely.
Here are some nations that WILL recognize Catalonia:
1) North Korea
2) Iran
3) Yemen
4) Syria
5) Somalia
6) Cuba
Nothing like having an export base for terror right on the European continent.
One side is as bad as the other...
Aw, but why not recognize it? Two peoples, two nations, after all. I’m not the Foreign Minister, but I think Israel should recognize Catalonia. They’ve been the victims of languagism and prejudice for generations. Even Ernest Hemingway got into it in For Whom The Bell Tolls.
So what about what are we going to do when local city/county officials vote to secede from the union ir there a rule book to follow on secession?
This is remnants of ETA and the Basque separatists movement, born in 1950 and fomented by communists.
Yes, they deserve a vote on their independence, but all of Spain needs to vote on it not just the erstwhile revolutionaries who were still assassinating people up to 2011.
When a particular region votes to secede without the whole country voting, that’s called a civil war — only it won’t be civil now and the separatists won’t win. Just as it should be.
The Dodgers will never leave Brooklyn.
Man will never fly.
Trump will never be President.
Whether they like it or not, whether it’s for good or bad, the Union is breaking up.
The European Deep State modeled after the Washington, DC Deep State.
There is nothing they despise more than arrogant provincial hayseeds thinking they have a right to freedom, independence and self determination.
“When in the course of human events......”
I stand with Catalonia.
It is 1776 for them.
I’m agnostic on Catalonian independence.
But the EU, with its heavy-handed interference, has made the situation worse. Spain and Catalonia should have been left alone to work this out for themselves.
You stated your argument well. I agree with you. A nation cannot exist without the support of other nation. Catalonia has no support.
Sure would be fun if Trump recognized them...just to kick the EU in the teeth.
Catalonia wants out of the EU , OMG can’t have that ,LOL
Catalexit. Britain will deal with them. Along with Poland and Hungary.
“The Latest: EU Official Says No One Will Recognize Catalonia”
Nor should anyone expect them to!
I dont know where people get the idea that recognizing breakaway parts of the metropolitan territory of a nation has ever been the norm unless it was negotiated between the two opposing sides or if that breakaway part wins an actual war on independence. It creates a diplomatic nightmare, obligates you to defend them, and reeks of meddling in the domestic affairs of a sovereign state.
Not to mention it removes any grounds for that same nation to then stop a similar movement in their own territory.
One possible solution would be to move the Spanish capital from Madrid to Barcelona. Then they would have nothing to bitch about.
Let’s hope they get their freedom. They don’t have to be recognized. Their freedom would be good for the world. We in the US may need similar actions. What’s going on in the US govt now proves its totally corrupt.
Recognize Catalonia? Heck, I don’t even recognize my own country any more! :-D