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New California Law Prohibits Salary History Inquiries
Littler ^ | 13 october 2017 | Bruce Sarchet

Posted on 10/28/2017 6:02:42 PM PDT by CodeToad

On October 12, 2017, Governor Jerry Brown of California signed into law a state-wide ban on employer inquiries into an individual’s salary history. The new law (AB 168) will apply to all employers, including state and local governments, and will take effect on January 1, 2018.

The new law continues the expansion of equal pay protection in California. California’s Equal Pay law has been on the books since 1949, requiring equal pay, regardless of gender, for equal work. It remained largely unchanged until 2016, when it was amended to require equal pay for “substantially similar” work.

(Excerpt) Read more at littler.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; equalpaylaw; governormoonbeam; govmoonbeam; lofan; salary; salaryhistories
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To: central_va

Actually I didn’t ask. But thanks for the info. Don’t call us, we’ll call you.


101 posted on 10/29/2017 2:17:29 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: XEHRpa

You asked what’s next.

My reply is asking how much a person makes in order to get a bank loan.


102 posted on 10/29/2017 2:17:47 PM PDT by moviefan8
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To: SamAdams76

I wouldn’t work for sorry ass because I know as asshole when I see one. As soon as you asked me that question I’d know two things. First you are an unethical f-—ing slime ball and I would have total disgust. The second thing I would know is I can low ball you in reverse. So I’d low ball my salary. I’d gladly let you low ball me if I was unemployed. In that case there is nothing to lose. Take the job then totally slack and look for a new job on your dime. Loser.


103 posted on 10/29/2017 2:23:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CodeToad

Isn’t it funny how the laws of supply and demand are always bent in favor of the corporation and never allowed to function properly. Yet these people would call themselves “free market” capitalists.


104 posted on 10/29/2017 2:27:28 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Yes, I know about H-1Bs and IT. That has nothing to do with our original discussion. I also know that, in the total US workforce, IT jobs are relatively minuscule. I agree that the numbers of H-1Bs should be strictly limited but they should not dictate employment laws for US citizens. Just for general information, not everyone is in IT. There is a vast job market for other professions.


105 posted on 10/29/2017 2:33:46 PM PDT by suthener
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To: suthener

BLS says there are 4.5M STEM workers. Yeah minuscule.


106 posted on 10/29/2017 2:36:37 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Your profane and hostile attitude alone probably makes it very difficult for you to find good work with reputable companies.

Good luck to you, you obviously need it.

107 posted on 10/29/2017 2:37:45 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

I am as good a faker as you are a liar. I am on my best behavior around HR punks. I’ve played the game a long time. And it is a game.


108 posted on 10/29/2017 2:40:03 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Actually I'm not HR at all. I run the operation and do my own hiring. I do use HR at corporate to to help recruit, vet and then onboard the candidates that I decide upon. But I make the final decisions.

Sounds like you've had some bad experiences. Too bad. There are good companies out there that aren't out to screw their employees.

109 posted on 10/29/2017 2:46:17 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
Anyone that asks what you made at your last job is unethical and out screw you. It's a real red flag.

I knew you were an unethical POS when you said there are not pre determined salary ranges for specific jobs. That is a lie. You are liar.

110 posted on 10/29/2017 2:52:14 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: moviefan8

...and then when the banks fail from unpaid bad loans, the Feds will nationalize that, too.


111 posted on 10/29/2017 2:56:00 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: central_va
I knew you were an unethical POS when you said there are not pre determined salary ranges for specific jobs.

Actually I said the exact opposite. That there is actually a wide salary range for each job. That gives us the ability to slot people into a position with varying levels of experience and skill and more importantly to go after top talent (while still making room for entry level).

112 posted on 10/29/2017 2:56:54 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: XEHRpa

You are right.


113 posted on 10/29/2017 3:01:31 PM PDT by moviefan8
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To: SamAdams76

Ok, if the system is so fair then do you encourage employees to share information between each other regarding their current salaries? If not, why not?


114 posted on 10/29/2017 3:46:04 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Good question. As you probably know, most corporations officially frown upon employees sharing their pay information with other employees. Personally, I've never discussed my salary with any co-workers during my career as I consider it bad form and none of their business. However, real world, management is well aware that some employees do discuss their salary information with each other - we call it the "parking lot conversation" - and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

With regard to the department I run, I have no fear of employees sharing their salaries with other employees. That's because I think I've done a pretty good job keeping the salaries commensurate with experience, skills and performance. I get very few complaints from my employees about their pay. People of equivalent seniority and position tend to do the most talking among each other and will likely find that their compensation is more or less the same as their peers. Should a lower ranked junior employee find out what a more senior and highly ranked employee makes, they will likely find that that person makes considerably more. And that's ultimately a good thing. Because they will realize that their career is not a "dead end" and that with additional skills and experience, they too, can achieve that level of compensation. I want my employees to know that they have a career with us and that hard work and good performance is rewarded.

115 posted on 10/29/2017 4:03:31 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
However, real world, management is well aware that some employees do discuss their salary information with each other - we call it the "parking lot conversation" - and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

Gee thanks, Adolf.

116 posted on 10/29/2017 4:05:32 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: MNDude
Asking that question seems to try to give salaries based on leverage more than what doing the job is worth.

The fact that there's any hiring process at all indicates that it's not a question of "what the job is worth," but what the applicant is worth.

Hiring is no different than anything else...Put more hurdles into the process, get less hiring.

117 posted on 10/29/2017 4:08:02 PM PDT by gogeo (Leftists are a parasite that destroys the host.)
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To: CodeToad
Expert at these laws. Expert. Unlike you, I don’t just follow corporate policy and think that is the law. I read the law, not just follow corporate memos.

So, I'm guessing that you are actually unaware of the federal labor laws as detailed in the Code of Federal Regulations, the personnel policies as set forth by the Office of Personnel Management, etc. Otherwise, you would have recognized by the fact that I stated that I refer to these resources extensively (along with the HR people and the JAG office) that I am not corporate and have no corporate policies to follow, and that I follow federal law exclusively.

Under *federal* law, it is perfectly legal for a candidate who has received a job offer to make a counteroffer and provide their previous salary as a bargaining chip.

The fact that you dislike the idea that employer and prospective employee should be able to bargain the terms of employment compensation does not, in fact, make such a practice illegal--or even immoral.

118 posted on 10/29/2017 4:10:20 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Teacher317
Some people have an overwhelming need to pretend that evil capitalists are eager to discriminate by gender so as to open themselves up to multi-billion dollar lawsuits for no actual tangible gain. Some of them post on FR.

It is rather disturbing, isn't it?

119 posted on 10/29/2017 4:13:36 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: central_va

Adolf would have told you what you wanted to hear.


120 posted on 10/29/2017 4:28:38 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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