Posted on 10/18/2017 6:37:13 AM PDT by NRx
The NHS will ban patients from surgery indefinitely unless they lose weight or quit smoking, under controversial plans drawn up in Hertfordshire.
The restrictions - thought to be the most extreme yet to be introduced by health services - immediately came under attack from the Royal College of Surgeons.
Its vice president called for an “urgent rethink” of policies which he said were “discriminatory” and went against the fundamental principles of the NHS.
In recent years, a number of areas have introduced delays for such patients - with some told operations will be put back for months, during which time they are expected to try to lose weight or stop smoking.
But the new rules, drawn up by clinical commissioning groups (CCGs) in Hertfordshire, say that obese patients “will not get non-urgent surgery until they reduce their weight” at all, unless the circumstances are exceptional.
The criteria also mean smokers will only be referred for operations if they have stopped smoking for at least eight weeks, with such patients breathalysed before referral.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
but politically protected groups like gays who get AIDS and Hep C will get all the treatments they could ever desire, even though lifestyles are massively risky as well ...
btw, what’s next? denial of medications to smokers and the obese?
I had no say in the matter.
Well, you don't want to get a nosocomial infection. I had one of those after my back surgery, and it nearly took me out. It's bad enough when you aren't trying to recover from being sliced, diced, wired, and stapled back together.
Yup,I understood that.The point I was trying to make in mentioning that was that while it's almost always a bad idea for government bureaucrats (like those at the NHS) to make decisions of this sort there are times when a procedure should be postponed (or canceled) for medical reasons...like smoking or being overweight.
So are they going to ration care for risky sexual and drug behaviors??? I didn’t think so....
Because Single Payer could never result in Death Panels.
And with today’s high percentage of obesity, access problems solved!
Absolutely Laz. It’s just politics and voting taken to it’s logical conclusion.
Fat? Smoker? Ornery? Gun owner? Need medical care?
We’ll have this panel, see, and everyone will have a vote. Heck, we’ll even give the patient a vote along with the doctors, the administrators, and everyone else who wants to meet the budget. We’ll vote on whether you get to live. What could be more fair and democratic than an election?
No. We’re far more civilized than that. Those who shoot the people’s deer will be tried. There will be a fair and democratic vote. And THEN they’ll be hanged by the neck until dead.
Too much beer? No help for you. Drink a little wine? Too bad!, Whiskey? You are as good as dead!
Robin o’ Locksley, thou shouldst be living in this day! Trials? Who would have imagined.
Jeeze. Stupid Brits, just when you think they can’t get any stupider. NHS still paying for sex change surgery? I’d bet they are. So, if you’re fat or a smoker, do you get to stop paying NHS taxes? It seems only fair. What Britain needs is another William the Conqueror.
If this is true, why induce the severe suffering of
surgery at all, if it’s not going to make any difference?
Smokers should be required to have a license and to have special insurance to cover COPD and cancer.
No, but allow them to live or die with the consequences of their own BEHAVIOR.
Bet you my next EBT card that they are approving aids treatment, abortions, sex “change” operations, and euthanasia.
Extreme, but health insurance premiums need to be adjusted, perhaps radically, for the grossly obese, heavy drinkers and tobacco users, just as they are for life insurance.
I don't see them lining up to subsidize the results of my less-than-wise decisions!
Deny them health care, as decided by you?
I never said DENY them anything. Just don't expect ME to pay for it.
I’m very curious if this pertains to elective surgeries or all surgeries.
This is very worrisome! I’ve been in discussions with people from the UK and Canada. I can’t believe people actually think they have a superior system. They don’t call patients back to answer questions or concerns. There are no second opinions. It’s impersonal. What is interesting is they don’t know any difference. They boast that they don’t pay premiums like we do. But, I’m shocked at what I read about their treatment plans. Sometimes heartbreaking because I know there are other options.
Heavy,long time,smokers are not good surgical risks.Neither are those who are substantially overweight. <<
and your point being?.....
And yet male queers spreading AIDS like infected monkeys are readily treated as is genital mutilation surgery seemingly acceptable.
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