Taboo Truths About the Comanche

Frotpagemagazine ^ | October 11, 2017 | Danusha V. Goska

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Ever once in a while LBM pops up on TCM. A very funny movie but completely lacking in historical accuracy. There really saw a Sioux Indian named LITTLE BAG MAN. He grabbed hold of Crazy Horse in CH’s attempt to break from jail when he was killed, not by a bayonet thrust as believed today, but accidentally stabbed himself with a home made dagger made from a bayonet.

On the other hand the vile SOLDIER BLUE has not been seen since 1971, along with another inaccurate movie FLAP (NO ONE LOVES FLAPPING EAGLE, aka No One Loves a Drunken Indian). They couldn’t even decide on an inoffensive name.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

My great-grandfather was born in that year (1868), he held me in his arms when I was born. He was an old time cowboy in Southern Colorado, died in 1955 and is buried near the Santa Fe trail Cut off in NE New Mexico.

Hard to believe a man born when the Indians were still lifting scalps, the Santa Fe trail closed due to Indian raids, bison all over the plains, Texas cattle drives just started, and Custer was raiding the Washita hostiles, was alive and lived to see the B-52 Bomber go into service.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Earl Stanley Gardner, of Perry Mason fame, often wrote of his travels in Mexico. He said, in one of his books that the last wild Apache raid and the fight with the Mexicans was.. in 1939. Yes, 1939.

[MileHi]

A very funny movie...

And that's all it is. Haven't seen it in 25 years.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

In Arizona and New Mexico it was known as the APACHE MOON for the same reason.

[MileHi]

There really saw a Sioux Indian named LITTLE BAG MAN. He grabbed hold of Crazy Horse in CH’s attempt to break from jail when he was killed, not by a bayonet thrust as believed today, but accidentally stabbed himself with a home made dagger made from a bayonet.

Interesting. I was at the fort in Nebraska once (forgot the name). Not much of a fort, no stockade fence like you'd expect. Good turkey hunting nearby.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

Fort Robinson...near Valentine?

[MileHi]

Sounds right. Turkey hunting in Shadrin (sp?) so we went by there.

[HP8753]

Bump

[Guenevere]

Bump

[familyop]

"Earl Stanley Gardner, of Perry Mason fame, often wrote of his travels in Mexico. He said, in one of his books that the last wild Apache raid and the fight with the Mexicans was.. in 1939. Yes, 1939."

Not long ago, eh? I've known a few in recent times--some in the '70s and others over the past 10 years or so. The ones I've known are pretty decent men, really. They work quite a bit and don't let little troubles bother them.

[Elsie]

Where they are coming from: (Ashland) http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0200/frameset_reset.html?http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0200/stories/0201_0122.html

For one thing, you would be the only human being in the landscape.

Humans had not yet evolved, and so animals dominated a landscape covered with sub-tropical grasses and patches of jungle.

 

 

 

 

Many American Indian people are very concerned about the respectful treatment of human remains. At Crow Creek, Native American holy people conducted ceremonies honoring the dead. Indian people worked as both excavators and guards at the site.

 

 

NOW there are some!

[Elsie]

INdeed it is!

History just FLIES by!

I retired in ‘95 and the disk drive we had at work was as large as your washing machine and had 350 Mbytes storage.

[Elsie]

No different that most every other culture has believed or currently believes.

Even ours.

[Elsie]

I don’t know about the ‘natural’ part; but the rest is true.

About 3,300 future Americans will DIE today from CHOICE.

ULDM

[Luigi Vasellini]

Good post on Indians

[Liberty Valance]

I've been re-reading 'The Captured' by Scott Zesch. It's an amazing account of early German and Czech settlers here in the Texas hill country and their culture clash with the Comanche and Apache tribes. The morbid brutality by the Indians depicted in this book would scare the pants off most modern era history buffs. It's a real page turner and I'll give it 5 stars because you can dance around the fire to it.

[huldah1776]

NO and why aren’t they prosecuted? Is there no law against murder and selling the body parts? If not, why not.

[ought-six]

Yes, some tribes did practice human sacrifice for religious purposes, but that practice pretty much died out by the 18th century.

[kaehurowing]

Aren’t they the ones with chief who, as the travelled around the mountains and prairies was constantly yelling, “Where the Hekawi?”

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The tribe originally wanted to name themselves the “Fugawi,” but the chief medicine man concluded that would be a bad idea.

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