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'USS Bread and Water': Old and rare punishment loomed over a demoralized crew
www.navytimes.com ^
| 10/10/2017
| By: Geoff Ziezulewicz
Posted on 10/10/2017 1:12:31 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger
I remember doing evap watch if your caught for long sea showers.
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:26:26 PM PDT
by
AU72
To: Red Badger
I noticed no input from CAPT Aycock’s Command Master Chief.
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:26:48 PM PDT
by
paddles
("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
To: Red Badger
I don’t get what the actual issue is.
Is the captain being demeaned for frequently doling out light punishments?
or is the punishment being demeaned as just this side of “cruel and unusual”?
3 days of “think about it” with near-fasting sustenance seems a good idea for some high-spirited idiots.
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:29:06 PM PDT
by
ctdonath2
(It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
To: Red Badger
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:29:45 PM PDT
by
Fiddlstix
(Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
To: Red Badger
I can’t speak for the Navy but I assume that UCMJ applies. As such, one can always refuse an Article 15 (Captains mast), though the consequence is to then be subject to a courts martial.
I know this because I went this route over charges of missing movement leveled against me. After reviewing the case, JAG declined to prosecute and informed my captain (O3) that I was well within my rights as an NCO and that my actions were in the best interest of the Army.
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:30:56 PM PDT
by
taxcontrol
(Stupid should hurt)
To: Nifster
Maybe it should be bred, water and castor oil.
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:32:26 PM PDT
by
piasa
(...)
To: Autonomous User
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:32:49 PM PDT
by
bagster
(Even bad men love their mamas.)
To: Red Badger
I fail to see a problem here. Marine Corps Platoon Seargants could come up with much, much worse.
L
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:33:17 PM PDT
by
Lurker
(President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
To: Nifster
That low bid Navy toilet paper is cruel and unusual.
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:34:52 PM PDT
by
piasa
(...)
To: Red Badger
One of my friends was in the Army and he got put on bread and water in the brig on a ship for falling asleep at his post
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:35:33 PM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
To: Lurker
Sergeants, yes, problem taken care of at the source.
Not by a Flag officer................
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:36:01 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
To: Red Badger
Ending bread and water is one of a set of military justice reforms included in last year’s defense bill that are awaiting President Trump’s signature. Wonder what other leftwing nut ideas are in there?
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:37:13 PM PDT
by
piasa
(...)
To: AppyPappy
He’s lucky he didn’t end up in Leavenworth...................
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:37:16 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
To: Autonomous User
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:39:05 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
To: bagster
Never saw it, but Mary Elizabeth Winstead sure is dreamy.
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:39:13 PM PDT
by
Rastus
To: ctdonath2
I don’t get what the actual issue is. Obama era military justice "reform"... cruel and unusual stuff like sending deserters to prison, punishing people for misbehavior in front of the enemy, ostracizing soldiers for wearing their favorite Che Guevera T-Shirt, and serving bread without jelly, butter and a cup of Starbuck's coffee.
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:41:55 PM PDT
by
piasa
(...)
To: All
I don't see the problem here.
If you don't like the rules, or moderate punishment for breaking them, then do not voluntarily join the Navy.
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:42:51 PM PDT
by
TheTimeOfMan
(A time for peace and a time for war)
To: Rastus
Never saw it, but Mary Elizabeth Winstead sure is dreamy.
She is indeed a babe. I recommend it highly. One of the cleverest movies I've ever seen. Top ten list of all time for the immature movie fan like myself.
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:42:55 PM PDT
by
bagster
(Even bad men love their mamas.)
To: jospehm20
Yep! When I served back in the late 80’s/early 90’s, anyone that got busted for drugs on the first offense got 3 days in the brig bread and water AND 45/45 after they got out. This happened just about every time we had a random urinalysis. The second offense got you an OTH discharge.
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:44:14 PM PDT
by
3boysdad
(The very elect.)
To: Celtic Conservative
Notice the captain in question is no longer in command. They wisely put him in charge of a broom closet at the Naval War college.He was CO for 26 months. That sounds about right.
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posted on
10/10/2017 1:45:02 PM PDT
by
Drew68
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