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1 posted on 10/10/2017 11:28:17 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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2 posted on 10/10/2017 11:34:15 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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Let me get this straight, we are still using 70 year old B52s with no retirement in sight. So why can’t we update the Ticonderoga class like we did with the Iowa class battleships?


5 posted on 10/10/2017 11:41:22 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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The retirement of these ships will leave a bog hole in the Navy arsenal.

Everywhere you look, swamps needing draining and filling!

Thanks, Obastard! Eight long years to do something about this, but, no -- he had basketball brackets to fill out, had to say the "police acted stupidly," and had beer summits.

6 posted on 10/10/2017 11:42:46 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Meanwhile, no one has lifted a finger to bring us that 355 ship Navy Trump promised in his campaign or to repeal sequester. More empty promises to repair the damage of the military hating Obamaites.


10 posted on 10/10/2017 11:47:27 AM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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Why? Is that an “order”? And if so by whom?


11 posted on 10/10/2017 11:49:06 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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Kind of a BS headline. There’s no replacement in sight because they’re reducing the fleet. We’re still going to have 11 full carrier groups, with no serious naval enemy on our list. Now the platform is aging and probably needs to be replace, but that’s got nothing to do with retiring vessels that no longer fit into our vision or needs.


15 posted on 10/10/2017 11:59:07 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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I was involved in the development of the Navy LCS and it was a mess. They kept changing the specifications and broadening the mission in order to keep the funding. They had numerous committees working on the design and engineering changes were coming so fast that the drawings couldn’t even keep up with them. In the end they developed a ship that couldn’t really do a single mission well.


20 posted on 10/10/2017 12:06:13 PM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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The Burke DDG’s are a suitable replacement as they are up to nearly 10,000 tons now, with all the same electronics.

The only difference being 96 VLS vs 120 VLS.

It is a PROVEN platform, continually evolving and improving.

We just need to build a few extra. Like a couple of dozen more than current plan:)


26 posted on 10/10/2017 12:17:07 PM PDT by Mariner (Pink Pussy Hats for the NFL)
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It’s really just an “up-gunned” Spruance class destroyer.

No similar-sized ship, in any Navy around around the world, in any engagement since WWII against live bombs, dud bombs, live missiles, dud missiles, shrapnel, mines, or explosive-equipped fishing boats has been able to continue in combat.

(There have been more than 30 such attacks and accidents, the British losses in the Falklands were only a small set of examples).

In EVERY case, the destroyer-size sized ship - once it was hit ONCE by even a dud bomb - lost either command, control, conn (speed and propulsion and rudder control), its weapons, its weapons magazines and loader, its radar and missile power, its CIC, its bridge, or its helicopter and helo hanger.

Now, not very many were actually sunk by just one weapon (Every torpedo hit did sink its target, but TORPEX’s are excluded.) But NO destroyer-sized ship could keep fighting after receiving just one hit.


30 posted on 10/10/2017 12:25:44 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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I think Aegis Destroyers are smaller and add similar capability.

Just build lots of Aegis Destroyers.

Japan and South Korea would love to have a lot more of these.

Also, more bucks in Virginia class attack subs would not hurt either.

There are also very FAST Attack platforms the US Navy has or is building. I think these are about 50/60 knot platforms.

36 posted on 10/10/2017 12:38:10 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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It's not quite true that there is no replacement. We have a stopgap solution with the Flight III Arleigh Burke Destroyers, which will replace the SPY-1D radar with the new AN/SPY-6 AMDR

I appreciate information on the upgrades to 11 of the VLS Ticonderoga cruisers. I am surprised that htey are removing the An/SPS-49 long-range 2D radar without replacing it with another system such as the BAE Systems Integrated System Technologies S1850M

67 posted on 10/10/2017 3:54:45 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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