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Big Change in the Las Vegas Shooting Timeline
Ammoland ^ | 9 October, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/09/2017 9:15:53 PM PDT by marktwain

Previously, the reported timeline was the security guard, Jesus Campos, was shot and wounded in the leg, by the Las Vegas mass murderer at about 10:17- 10:19, 10 minutes *after* he started shooting at the

In the revised time-line, authorities are saying Campos was shot and wounded in the leg at 9:59 p.m., as he approached the door of suite 135, on the 32nd floor. *before* the shooting on the crowd started.

There are many changes in possible scenarios that come with this revelation, and many questions.

The security guard is reported as responding to a “door ajar” alarm on another room.  Why was he shot? Sheriff Lombardo says Campos reported the shooting immediately, but the police did not know about it until they discovered him on the 32nd floor, wounded, about 18 minutes later.  From abcnews.go.com:

On Monday, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo announced a change to the sequence of events that occurred on Oct. 1, saying a security guard who encountered Paddock was actually shot at 9:59 p.m. local time, minutes before the 64-year-old unleashed a hail of gunfire on unsuspecting concertgoers.

Previously, authorities had said that the security guard, Jesus Campos, was shot after Paddock had opened fire on the crowd below.

Lombardo said Campos immediately reported to hotel security that he had been shot. However, responding officers did not know Campos had been shot until they arrived on the 32nd floor and encountered him, Lombardo said.

According to the new time-line, the shooting on the crowd did not happen for another 6+ minutes. That is a long time for no action to be taken on the shooting of a security guard. The mass killer may have panicked at the vision of the security guard. It may have preempted his plans, precipitating

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: banglist; jesuscampos; lasvegas; lvinvestigation; lvmassacre; mandalaywindows; massmurder; nv; paddocktimeline
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It may not be as bad as it looks. Six minutes before the shooting starts at the music festival, the guard was shot.

The hotel does not appear to have notified the police. Then all H*ll breaks loose...

1 posted on 10/09/2017 9:15:53 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

So he wasn’t the hero that saved the day.


2 posted on 10/09/2017 9:16:55 PM PDT by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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Very strange. Some posters on FR have been asking questions about the wounded guard, and suggesting that his situation is a key to this mystery. They are right.


3 posted on 10/09/2017 9:18:11 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: proust

This timeline changes things quite a bit.


4 posted on 10/09/2017 9:19:19 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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More discussion of this new timeline - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3593467/posts


5 posted on 10/09/2017 9:22:31 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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Are they sure about this timeline?

Hmmmm, was he going to start shooting soon, because wasn’t the festival on its LAST SONG when he started??


6 posted on 10/09/2017 9:22:34 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: marktwain

The change in the timeline makes this event even stranger.

Someone needs to ask Jesus.


7 posted on 10/09/2017 9:23:14 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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I'm trying to puzzle through this.. A shooting happens on the 32nd floor where a whole lot of whales and vip’s are stored, no one reports this to Vegas police, and apparently armed security also fails to respond as well as no calls by other guests about the shooting?

The only sane answer is someone’s timestamp is wrong on a log or video. As the above seems highly unlikely.

8 posted on 10/09/2017 9:24:35 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: BlackVeil

If police had to breach the locked interior door to the second room...then Paddock was obviously not running back and forth between the two broken windows. Who was in the second room and where did he go?


9 posted on 10/09/2017 9:27:57 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: marktwain

And they just figured this out? Or just decided to tell us?


10 posted on 10/09/2017 9:30:40 PM PDT by umgud
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"It may not be as bad as it looks. Six minutes before the shooting starts at the music festival, the guard was shot.

The hotel does not appear to have notified the police. Then all H*ll breaks loose..."

A hotel guest guns down a hotel security guard and they don't call the police? Say WHAT????????????

11 posted on 10/09/2017 9:35:21 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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And they just figured this out? Or just decided to tell us?

It's only been a week; it will take The Powers That Be some time to concoct a scenario, produce fake "evidence," bribe/threaten/suicide inconvenient witnesses to produce their desired result. Be patient.


12 posted on 10/09/2017 9:37:59 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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“a security guard who encountered Paddock was actually shot at 9:59 p.m. local time, minutes before the 64-year-old unleashed a hail of gunfire on unsuspecting concertgoers”
http://abcnews.go.com/US/latest-las-vegas-mass-shooting/story?id=50367905

Nine minutes. What the heck was the security guy doing for nine minutes? Or 6+ minutes as reported in the thread’s article. Either way, anyone else would have gotten to the elevator for security and pushed the lobby button. There’s a phone in the elevator to call for help but he had a phone on him as all reports claim he immediately called it in. Now, if he called his supervisor and the supervisor did nothing or the supervisor called 911 and it wasn’t relayed to the officers on scene, we don’t know. But someone dropped the ball. If it was the Mandalay (I suspect it was), they’d be paying everyone to keep it under wraps. They’re fixing to get some very bad publicity if this plays out.


13 posted on 10/09/2017 9:42:29 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: marktwain

Bfl


14 posted on 10/09/2017 9:44:09 PM PDT by pigsmith
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To: kingu

I would imagine that they must have a couple of shootings a year to be in this slow-to-react attitude, in regards to the VIP floors.


15 posted on 10/09/2017 9:44:25 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: 867V309

Ditto what you said.


16 posted on 10/09/2017 9:45:51 PM PDT by umgud
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To: BlackVeil
The same person who shot the security guard is the same person who shot Paddock in the chest. He bled out his mouth but was shot in the chest. Based on the dried blood versus new blood stain on the floor, this suggest to me HE DID NOT DIE IMMEDIATELY, FWIW.

Why are there so many guns in the room? I suspect Paddock was an arms dealer engaged in money laundering through the casinos. Perfect opportunity for a terrorist to seize upon because you significantly hamper investigators' ability to isolate exactly what happened.

All the terrorist had to do was bring a security guard's uniform in a bag to his meeting with Paddock and VOILA, the rest is history.

17 posted on 10/09/2017 9:46:32 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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The hotel does not appear to have notified the police.

Then what did the hotel do in all of that time?

18 posted on 10/09/2017 9:58:09 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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This certainly has become curious. My understanding of the explanation for Paddock shooting Campos was that Paddock had been shooting for several minutes and figured the jig was up, so bought himself some time by shooting the guard—seeing Campos on his camera/monitor he shot through the door.
Now they’re saying Paddock shooting at the crowd had not begun? And after the guard was shot, Mandalay did nothing, at least long enough for Paddock to kill and injure hundreds?
Why would he shoot the guard if he had not started shooting? Why would the guard be passing by his door?
In any event, after shooting Campos in the leg Paddock then began shooting down on the crowd. This is the current story?
I wondered why in the news conference sheriff Lombardo, the FBI flak (”Let’s not go there”) and another gomer kept parroting, “The facts are all that matter.”


19 posted on 10/09/2017 10:00:58 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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If the hotel was in on it and the guard self inflects the whole thing fits.


20 posted on 10/09/2017 10:17:57 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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