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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 10/05/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:


1.  How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?  

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2.  How did he fire off that many rounds without training?  

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?  

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4.  Why did he have so many weapons?  

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point." 

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?  

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6.  How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.) 

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?  

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8.  What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?  

A:  It was an echo. 

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?  

A: He was rich.  As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors.  Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A:  He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?  

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?  

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?  

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?  

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)... 

Response questions:  Where in these locations was glass broken?  Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A.  Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres?  What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture.  Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs.  Seriously, just stop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; grassyknoll; guncontrol; lasvegasshooting; magicbullets; yeaaaaaaaa
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To: dragnet2

Perhaps only the shooter knew about his motive.

I would guess that he slowly turned against the casinos, society, etc. and figured that he would clean it up by killing the little human ants below him.

Sheer speculation on my part right now.

Perhaps his writings will reveal something relevant.


381 posted on 10/06/2017 12:53:02 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: smokingfrog

Very little small plane traffic at McCarran Airport. Biz jet, Janet and airline traffic mostly(overwhelmingly).


382 posted on 10/06/2017 12:58:44 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Not true....every report said he shot at the guard 200 times and then he STOPPED.......the police were never shot at....at least in all the reporting.


383 posted on 10/06/2017 1:05:21 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Blue Highway

I heard it yesterday that the police had to knock down the door to the one bedroom because it was locked from the other side.


384 posted on 10/06/2017 1:06:19 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: CaptainCarrollton
His own dad escaped from a federal prison and successfully assumed a new identity and hid from police for many years before he was finally caught. The murderer probably thought that he could escape in the chaos and then hide from police scrutiny like his own psychopathic father had done for a long time.

I did not know this, very interesting. Maybe he was fascinated with his dad's criminal life.
385 posted on 10/06/2017 1:51:25 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: mad_as_he$$

Not really buying too much of what she says and this was a media report of what she supposedly told FBI. Eh.


386 posted on 10/06/2017 1:53:56 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: TruBluKentuckian

A guy I know sent me that yesterday, I’m not familiar with the site, which is why I tossed it up here for FR opinions.

Personally, I did hear two shooters, I have 10 years experience with small arms (infantry), and knew from day one they weren’t telling us the truth.

What happened to lvpd leading press to the right questions like they said they would?


387 posted on 10/06/2017 2:34:19 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Kaslin

Sheldon, it’s not conspiracy to think the oh so innocent woman isn’t involved. It isn’t to think a third party or some Islamic slant or hatred for Trump and conservatives wasn’t there...Geary Danleys FB coconut was quite so.

Much was removed from 6am 3 days ago...I saw it on the original thread around post #600 or so.

To trust the FBICIASWAMP to investigate this and tell us the truth???

Yeah, and I trust our government and don’t need the 2nd amendment to protect me from them anymore...sarcasm off now.

Sheldon, you don’t get to think for me...I can handle it myself.


388 posted on 10/06/2017 2:52:58 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (The Left's family value: 'The U.S. is the great enemy of mankind!' (Che Guevara, 1961))
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To: CaptainCarrollton
Why TWO broken windows?

He was reported to be shooting ONLY at the concert area...

389 posted on 10/06/2017 3:58:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CaptainCarrollton

The broken window in the point faces the stage area.

The other one faces what? the AIRPORT!


390 posted on 10/06/2017 4:02:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mylife

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mErdd5AalQo/UKxiSFnI4NI/AAAAAAAAMZw/E69DK8Ty6p4/s1600/1944_HouseFrankenstein_img14.JPG

391 posted on 10/06/2017 4:04:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TXnMA

Hotel 400 yds from stage.

the shooters room was another 100 yds up.


392 posted on 10/06/2017 4:07:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: snarkytart

I agree she is not trustworthy at this point, that said the screaming and moaning point fits with other things coming out about his behavior. I expect more info today from the public forum.


393 posted on 10/06/2017 4:09:43 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Psychiatry is as fake as you.


394 posted on 10/06/2017 4:17:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Iscool
the shooter was waving the rifle back and forth while shooting...

At the distance he was away from the stage area; I doubt that the angle he needed to 'wave' would be very great.

395 posted on 10/06/2017 4:20:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TigerClaws
We are nearing a point where proper security for ANY large outside event needs to have police snipers.

We have NO snipers to protect the lives of the unborn; who are about to die; at the hands of a serial killer and his/her accomplices in an abortion 'clinic'.

396 posted on 10/06/2017 4:23:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TigerClaws

Videos of second shooters, cartoon amount of guns. Lunch bills for two. The news keep saying lone wolf (this is my clue their is something wrong with the story).


397 posted on 10/06/2017 4:24:33 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: TigerClaws

Videos of second shooters, cartoon amount of guns. Lunch bills for two. The news keep saying lone wolf (this is my clue their is something wrong with the story).


398 posted on 10/06/2017 4:24:34 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: TigerClaws

Videos of second shooters, cartoon amount of guns. Lunch bills for two. The news keep saying lone wolf (this is my clue their is something wrong with the story).


399 posted on 10/06/2017 4:24:36 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: TigerClaws

Videos of second shooters, cartoon amount of guns. Lunch bills for two. The news keep saying lone wolf (this is my clue their is something wrong with the story).


400 posted on 10/06/2017 4:24:38 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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