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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 10/05/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:


1.  How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?  

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2.  How did he fire off that many rounds without training?  

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?  

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4.  Why did he have so many weapons?  

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point." 

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?  

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6.  How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.) 

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?  

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8.  What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?  

A:  It was an echo. 

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?  

A: He was rich.  As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors.  Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A:  He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?  

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?  

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?  

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?  

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)... 

Response questions:  Where in these locations was glass broken?  Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A.  Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres?  What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture.  Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs.  Seriously, just stop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; grassyknoll; guncontrol; lasvegasshooting; magicbullets; yeaaaaaaaa
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To: Kaslin
He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto

I thought it was 75 minutes. I could be wrong, but he had multiple guns set up, but we should get that straight - his full time shooting because the left and RINOs are trying to pin that many deaths on the bump stock which will give them an excuse to further erode your 2nd amendment right. They know it's nearly impossible to repeal the 2nd, so instead what they are doing is looking for ANY excuse, ANY avenue to unconstitutionally infringe upon your right even further, as much as possible where it pretty much becomes a repeal.

The whole thing is outrageous because he could have used any number of methods to kill a hell of a lot more people than just using guns especially since he had a pilots license. And BTW, since when the does the left and RINOs give a damn how many Americans are killed? We got 50,000 people dying now every year now from the poison flooding our country from south of the border, a good number of them kids as young as 10, yet they fight Trump constantly because he is trying to stop it. To hell with these bastards, they are all full of BS. They don't give a damn about any of this, if they did they would have clamped down on the Antifa terrorist organization after the Steve Scalise shooting...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/07/18/10-year-old-dies-with-heroin-and-fentanyl-in-his-system-state-attorney-says/?utm_term=.b82e935a99f1

141 posted on 10/05/2017 4:48:49 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan taking office.)
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To: Kaslin

The FBI won’t Release the video of Paddock using the Hotel room, but will release speculation that he might have been eyeing an event where Obama’s daughter Could have been going to. Yeah, not suspicious at all.


142 posted on 10/05/2017 4:49:03 PM PDT by heights
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To: smokingfrog

No, just sandy ones? LOL


143 posted on 10/05/2017 4:49:26 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: johniegrad

Well said...now I’m wondering about the broken glass. When was it first noticed (outside?) and by whom? Surely someone heard the glass fall from 32 floors....


144 posted on 10/05/2017 4:49:49 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: Terry Mross
Here’s my conspiracy theory. His target was the secret government planes and fuel tanks. When they didn’t explode he turned on the easy targets at the concert.

My theory is that he wanted to create havoc and kill people.

If his target was planes or fuel, he had enough firepower to go after them in different ways that might have had a better chance of succeeding.

And he wanted to escape. He would have wanted to see the results of his actions. He wasn’t on a suicide mission.

Suicide bombers complicate the analysis. Otherwise, most people who do stuff like this think they'll get away.

Realistically, though, the odds aren't that great, especially if you keep shooting and/or don't leave the room the shots came from.

145 posted on 10/05/2017 4:50:10 PM PDT by x
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To: Hot Tabasco

I don’t even know who Michael Rivero is... LOL!


146 posted on 10/05/2017 4:50:45 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Kaslin
10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A: He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

Take a look at the video from the 48th floor. The people taking the video are horrified by the gunfire aimed at the people trying to escape from the concert. As you can see there isn't a crowd anymore, and most of the ground is no longer covered by people. But the shooter is firing away at the remaining people, and unfortunately killing people, so he was able to direct his fire to effect.

So the guy with the answers is just wrong on answer number 10.

Disturbing video of Las Vegas terror attack

147 posted on 10/05/2017 4:53:13 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Kaslin
4. Why did he have so many weapons?

A: First, he was a psychopath

How do you know? He could have been perfectly rational. All it takes is a change in your belief system. He could have become convinced by ISIS or the Antifa terrorist organization that right wing white people are the biggest threat to whatever world he is living in. I just mention this because I don't want this brushed aside and forgotten "Oh he's just a psychopath" and then the swamp running the FBI puts it on the back burner. I WANT to know if this guy was involved with either or those terrorist organizations, ISIS or Antifa and if so take appropriate action against them.

148 posted on 10/05/2017 4:54:44 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan taking office.)
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To: Kaslin
WHOSE fingerprints were on all of the guns?

WHO positively ID'd him??? No family member did.

WHY was the adjoin bedroom door LOCKED from the other side??

WHAT did the note say..."Catch Me If You Can"??

149 posted on 10/05/2017 4:56:00 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: gaijin

Whoa! WTF? Where is that from?


150 posted on 10/05/2017 4:57:11 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan taking office.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

And HOW the HELL did the Security Guard only get a shot in the leg when the killer shot off 200 rounds????? I need to know WAY more about that situation!


151 posted on 10/05/2017 4:58:10 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Alas Babylon!; gaijin
That graphic means NOTHING. Show it’s origin, provenance, etc. Otherwise, for all I know, you [gaijin]made it.

No Gaijin could not have made that graphic. It is too well done for human technology. I think we need to send it to the Ancient Aliens people on the History Channel to learn which interstellar culture could have made such a graphic.

152 posted on 10/05/2017 4:58:17 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: TigerClaws
He had help and he had a cause

The DNC needed to keep Nevada in the Dim's corner, and Paddock was charged with suppressing the vote.

153 posted on 10/05/2017 5:00:23 PM PDT by Does so (McAuliffe's Charlottesville...and...The Walter Duranty Press"...)
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To: Iscool; Kaslin
“....Really??? So which was the real one and which one was the echo, the high pitched shots or the very low pitched shots...Sometimes they would echo and sometimes not, eh???”
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Do you realize that you have seen many, many, many DIFFERENT smart phone recordings from many different locations at differing times. The recorded characteristics/sounds of the shots (and their echos) would vary with the acoustics associated with the specific “operator” locations of each of the differing video recording events, they would vary with the quality/characteristics/settings of each smart phone and they would vary with which weapon was being fired at the time of the specific recordings.

IMHO, assumption is still the mother of all “foul” ups as Mama used to say...using slightly less clean language. As ‘Kaslin’ said, let’s be careful with the conspiracy theories.

154 posted on 10/05/2017 5:00:45 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY.)
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To: johniegrad

The hotel security guard is a key witness.


155 posted on 10/05/2017 5:01:44 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
I heard a report that the cameras in the room were not on/recording.

Now they don't have to erase anything, no recordings to see. Hotel recordings have all been removed and will never be seen again. We know for a fact Islam or Antifa were not involved, we were told that within an hour.

156 posted on 10/05/2017 5:04:11 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: itsahoot

As ISIS claims credit!


157 posted on 10/05/2017 5:05:46 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Does the Fraternal Order of Police say that he was ANTIFA?

Don't be silly, the NRA and Republican party were behind this.

158 posted on 10/05/2017 5:05:48 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: Benny Boy

...a video of a girl who was warned before the event that they would all be killed...


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/las-vegas-shooting-crowd-warned-youre-all-going-to-die/ar-AAsPNZ8


159 posted on 10/05/2017 5:05:55 PM PDT by smileyface (Things looking up in RED PA! I love President Trump!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

There’s already too much BS flying around, creating conspiracy theories left and right. Why do you want more?


Why not? That’s how you come up with the full picture. Throw everything on the table, move it around, sort it, throw out the BS. I’m going to start with your posts.


160 posted on 10/05/2017 5:06:09 PM PDT by MWestMom (If you believe in everything, you believe in nothing and you will fall for anything.)
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