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Spain sends in ARMY to Catalonia as it pushes region to brink over referendum
Express ^ | Oct 4, 2017 | JON ROGERS

Posted on 10/04/2017 11:38:58 PM PDT by aquila48

SPAIN has sent two convoys of troops into Catalonia in a move that is likely to anger the regional parliament.

Troops from the Logistic Support Group 41 (AALOG 41) who are based in Aragon were told of their move at about 7pm last night.

The exact number of soldiers is not known but according to the newspaper El Confidencial, two contingents of troops are being sent in 20 trucks.

It is understood their orders are to provide logistical support to the Guardia Civil and national police still stationed in the region.

The appearance of troops is likely to be seen as highly controversial as the President of Catalonia Carles Puigdemont has previously referred to the presence of the Guardia Civil and national police as “occupying forces” and had said they should leave all four of the Catalan provinces immediately.

Former Vice President Alfonso Guerra defends the idea of sending the Army to Catalonia.

The former president and leader of socialist party PSOE Alfonso Guerra has defended the decision to send the Army into Catalonia in case the police were not able to control the situation created by a "pro-fascist" independence movement that is attempting "a coup d’etat".

In an interview with radio station Onda Cero, he recalled that in Paris the Army has been in the streets for a year because of the terrorist threat and that does not make France less of a democratic country.

Alfonso Guerra has supported the message that the King addressed the Spaniards last night because he made an emphasis "where it is needed, in the members of the coup d’etat", with whom he believes it is not possible to negotiate.

The troops are believed to have been stationed at the barracks in Santa Eulalia de Sant Boi de Llobregat, a few miles from Barcelona.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catalan; catalonia; election; europe; spain
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To: aquila48

As with the Iraq/Iran war I’m cheering for both sides!


21 posted on 10/05/2017 3:20:55 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.6l)
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To: littleharbour
“This sounds like a repeat of Tianamen Square.”

Pray to God not. This whole thing has been handled horribly.

22 posted on 10/05/2017 3:22:02 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Pontiac; Fai Mao

It was decided rather emphatically 1861-1865.


23 posted on 10/05/2017 3:28:27 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Fai Mao

“If the people in this area of Spain are able to pull this off look for a similar illegal election in California next year.”

Yeah, and if the Cali secession movement does indeed gain traction and should come to an affirmative vote what should be the U,S. goverment response? Should we let’em go or shut it down? Btw, if/when some sicialist becomes POTUS we will likely see a similar movement in Texas. However, Texas may bring along some of its regional neighbor’s - which would mean the end of the U.S. as we know it....


24 posted on 10/05/2017 3:41:58 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Pontiac

States can’t print money. That’s why CA won’t leave.


25 posted on 10/05/2017 3:43:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: cgbg

Secession is illegal only if you lose.


26 posted on 10/05/2017 3:43:56 AM PDT by Husker24
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To: Trump20162020

Never go full Lincoln.


27 posted on 10/05/2017 3:48:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Fai Mao

Mr. Mao,

Would you enlightening us by posting the article and section of the US Constitution that prohibits state secession?

Thanks


28 posted on 10/05/2017 3:50:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Nothing was decided in 1865. A temporary decision was made in blood.


29 posted on 10/05/2017 3:55:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mewzilla
States can’t print money. That’s why CA won’t leave.

The fully independent country of California can print anything the want to.

30 posted on 10/05/2017 3:57:31 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: aquila48

madrid continues to escalate refuses to accept mediation.

this all began when autonomy was revoked back in 2010.


31 posted on 10/05/2017 4:15:58 AM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: aquila48

My family is Basque, still have relatives over there. I guarantee you that if major violence breaks out over there and it shows Madrid is preventing Catalunya from controlling it’s own destiny that the other autonomous regions will start their own separation movements as well.

Galicia, Basque Country, maybe even Asturias. Spain is not a cohesive common culture or society. The regionalism is as fragmented and unique as different sovereign cultures.


32 posted on 10/05/2017 4:41:24 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Americans are modern day Amorites ripe for destruction)
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To: aquila48

If Catalonia leaves, it will be a full muslim enclave in five years.

And Spain will be Andalusia in ten. That is why the Army is there.

This time, there is no Martel to keep them south of the Pyrenees.


33 posted on 10/05/2017 5:22:51 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: snoringbear

Shut off the water to Cali and seal the border. It would be over in weeks.

Cali is a desert state that has WAY more population than it should. The are piping water from Colorado to keep the lawns green in LA. Turn off the pipe, and things will get rather interesting quick.


34 posted on 10/05/2017 5:25:23 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: Fai Mao

The Soviet Union once thought the same of its constituent “Republics”.


35 posted on 10/05/2017 5:48:51 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Two scoops, two genders, two terms. Get used to it.)
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To: mewzilla

“States can’t print money. That’s why CA won’t leave.”

If they left then they wouldn’t be a State and can do as they please. Duh.


36 posted on 10/05/2017 6:02:17 AM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: CodeToad

They. Can’t. Afford. It.

Think Venezuela.


37 posted on 10/05/2017 6:08:12 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: mewzilla

Why not? They are the 7th largest GDP in the world and the largest GDP in the US.

To compare it to Venezuela is silly.


38 posted on 10/05/2017 6:10:51 AM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: mewzilla

P.S. You said States cannot print money, you said nothing about viability.


39 posted on 10/05/2017 6:11:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: CodeToad
As for why Spain won't let Catalonia go...

Catalonia is critical contributor to Spain's economy

40 posted on 10/05/2017 6:13:02 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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