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The Las Vegas Shooter Passed Background Checks, Had Ammonia Nitrate in His Car
National Review ^ | October 2, 2017 | Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted on 10/04/2017 5:33:32 PM PDT by Lera

It’s still unclear exactly what the shooter in Las Vegas used to carry out his disgusting attack last night. By all accounts, he had so many weapons that it’ll be a while before we know which ones he chose. Nevertheless, two new pieces of evidence have come to light in the last few hours, and both give us a little insight into who he was and what he was hoping to achieve. The first piece of news is that the killer “passed all required federal background checks” on at least two recent occasions:

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: ammoniumnitrate; fertilizer; lasvegas; lvmassacre; paddockbio; paddockexplosives; shooter; tannerite
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To: Fitzy_888

He had millions tied up in real estate, though.
Those guns and ammo alone probably costs thousands.

I’m not buying the screaming at the gf in Starbucks either because that was one girl who said that and nobody else. Everyone else said they were quiet and kept to themselves.


21 posted on 10/04/2017 6:06:09 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
When a background check is done, does it show previous purchases of guns? Shouldn’t there be a heads up after let’s say, a dozen guns?

"No" and "No"

if all of them were registered to him

What do you mean by "registered"? In sane States, there is no "registered".

22 posted on 10/04/2017 6:06:44 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Lera

He could have easily taken those explosives, filled his plane with it and killed 20,000 people..according to the police they have “Evidence” that Paddock wanted to get out alive..not sure how they know that..every terrorist knows once the cops comes its game over they are NOT getting out alive


23 posted on 10/04/2017 6:07:41 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Lera

First off, let’s get the title corrected — it’s ammonium nitrate. Next, let’s consider what we weren’t told which was the percentage concentration. The stuff that goes BOOM is typically 34% while that is used for fertilizer is a lower concentration. Also, to be explosive the AN is usually combined with fuel oil (ANFO) as was done at the Murrah Building in 1995. That has not been alleged in the Sheriff’s statements when they’ve noted the presence of AN.


24 posted on 10/04/2017 6:07:48 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Lera
It's 'Ammonium Nitrate', and it's just an oxidizer. Did they find a suitable fuel also? Do these people understand basic science? Did they ever?
25 posted on 10/04/2017 6:07:59 PM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: Fitzy_888

The NASA Steve Paddock is not the same as the Paddock shooter.

This was already fleshed out on other forums. NASA Steve Paddock had a career at the Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md


26 posted on 10/04/2017 6:08:40 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Lera

Wanna tour the shooter’s (pre-shoot) HOTEL ROOM..?

No I’m serious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=233&v=h8JiVBLJZyU


27 posted on 10/04/2017 6:09:14 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Jamestown1630

Girl at Starbucks said he was tall.


28 posted on 10/04/2017 6:10:58 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: suijuris

That’s odd - I’ve read that he was ‘small’; maybe that meant very thin?


29 posted on 10/04/2017 6:13:35 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Travis McGee

Connects a “Steve Paddock” with NASA, and one of the photos from (I think) the Reno anti-Trump rally showed a guy conjectured to be Paddock wearing a “NASA” shirt.


30 posted on 10/04/2017 6:14:37 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
Shouldn’t there be a heads up after let’s say, a dozen guns?

Ahh, so you favor "one gun a month" legislation?

31 posted on 10/04/2017 6:18:26 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

What explosives? And what kind of planes did he own? He had his pilots license so I assume the were smallish Cessna models or in that category like Piper Saratoga etc, in order to fly on his own.
It would take more of a jet to kill 20K. I know you remember 911, and that was two big jet commercial airliners filled with jet fuel flown into two buildings filled with people and even then the body count was not over 2,000.
Not sure where you’re getting the idea he could have used his plane to kill that many people (20K)


32 posted on 10/04/2017 6:21:45 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: akalinin

One of the very early stories I read indicated that the authorities found tannerite exploding targets in his car.

Ammonium nitrate is one of the two compounds used in the formulation of tannerite.


33 posted on 10/04/2017 6:25:18 PM PDT by Ethan Edwards
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To: suijuris

Who is buying SB girl’s story? She probably has the wrong man because nobody else these two have been around at hotels and restaurants have said anything about him yelling at his gf in public.
Some people love attention, or just have mistaken identity.
I’d feel more confident in her story if there were other hostesses or others who said the same thing.
If he did it enough for her to notice then I’m sure he did it around anyone. If it was just one time, then why would she even remember him?
Sounds suspect.


34 posted on 10/04/2017 6:27:16 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

He owned two single engine aircraft...

And for the record 9/11 was about 2,980 dead not counting the perps.


35 posted on 10/04/2017 6:27:41 PM PDT by piasa
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To: DuncanWaring

Steve Paddock Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md for many years.

Not the same as the shooter.


36 posted on 10/04/2017 6:28:42 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

The point of real estate is “return on equity”.

We are at the lowest interest rates in a 1,000 years or more.

Do you owning properties is profitable? How about owning just 8-10% and mortaging those property to buy other properties? Pay your bills and your creditors let you do that.

Would you rather own 10% percent of ten income generating properties...or would you rather own 100% one one property? Which will make you more? Which is the better avenue to growth long term? => I’ll take the gen properties.

So...truth be told, if he’s a good real estate investor he has a weak hand in terms of equity. Fire sale, he’s lucky to escape with anything!

Do you think Trump wants to own a property outright or instead mortgage nine more properties with that capital and pay historically low interest rates?

This is about return on investment.

Truth be told we will see this guy has a small stake in his real estate portfolio.

He has 200 transaction of $10,000 of more...for video poker.

He’s broke!


37 posted on 10/04/2017 6:29:32 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: piasa

I assume he could only fly one at a time. As I state he most likely owned small planes like Piper Saratoga or Cessna single engine not jet airliner.

Why is it people keep mentioning the fact he could have used his plane to kill more people?


38 posted on 10/04/2017 6:33:45 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Fitzy_888

I don’t think he’s broke. And if he did go broke it was intentional to blow his money the last weeks leading up to his plot which had to be in the works for awhile.
I do not think his motive was he was broke.


39 posted on 10/04/2017 6:36:41 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart
Why is it people keep mentioning the fact he could have used his plane to kill more people?

Well, what do you think would have happened if he loaded it up with jugs of gasoline and did a Kamikaze crash landing right through the crowd?

40 posted on 10/04/2017 6:41:10 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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