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Federal judge tells Pennsylvania county to drop the Christian cross from its seal
Fox News ^ | 09/29/2017 | Perry Chiaramonte

Posted on 09/30/2017 9:46:53 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

A federal judge has ordered a Pennsylvania county to remove the cross from its seal, saying it violated the Constitution.

Lehigh Valley County, which is about 40 miles north of Philadelphia, will have to redesign its seal after U.S. District Judge Edward Smith ruled in favor of the plaintiffs, the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), an organization that promotes separation of church and state and which filed the lawsuit against the county, according to The Morning Call.

Smith made it known in his ruling that he was not happy about the decision he had to make but was following the rule of constitutional law, including the establishment clause, which states that Congress may not pass any laws establishing a religion.

“While the court does not believe the current state of the law applicable to this case comports with the text of the Establishment Clause, the court is not in a position to reject it,” reads the ruling from Smith. “The law, as it currently stands, requires that the court rule in favor of the plaintiffs: the inclusion of the cross lacked a secular purpose both when the defendant adopted the seal and when the defendant refused to remove the cross from the seal, and a reasonable observer would perceive the seal as endorsing Christianity.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: antichristiam; antichristian; atheists; countyseal; cross; establishmentclause; ffrf; jino; lehighcounty; liberalagenda; pennsylvania; tyrannyoftheminority; warongod
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1 posted on 09/30/2017 9:46:53 PM PDT by ForYourChildren
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2 posted on 09/30/2017 9:47:39 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

Defy the order.


3 posted on 09/30/2017 9:48:36 PM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: ForYourChildren

NO! And POUND sand!


4 posted on 09/30/2017 9:48:54 PM PDT by freepersup (A freeper behind every blade of grass. / Count your blessings!)
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2014 Obammy appointee
https://www.fjc.gov/history/judges/smith-edward-george


5 posted on 09/30/2017 9:50:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: ForYourChildren

Uh no.


6 posted on 09/30/2017 9:51:35 PM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: ForYourChildren

Another “federal judge” ordered Los Angeles to remove its seal cross just last year. Next we expect a federal judge to order Los Angeles to change its name, too. Perhaps El Diablo would be more fitting anyway?


7 posted on 09/30/2017 9:54:31 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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Ignore the order. “Marshall has made his decision. Now, let him enforce it.”—Andrew Jackson


8 posted on 09/30/2017 9:55:06 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: ForYourChildren

Replace it with the stylized outline of a fish.


9 posted on 09/30/2017 9:56:34 PM PDT by oblomov
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Its been building for a long time, but Federal Judges believe they literally have the right to make social policy.


10 posted on 09/30/2017 9:57:45 PM PDT by PGR88
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A cross on the seal is not an establishment of religion in any way shape or form - True that it represents the historical founding of the town on Christian principles but that’s not an establishment either. The ruling is bs.


11 posted on 09/30/2017 9:58:50 PM PDT by Skywise
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Its been building for a long time, but Federal Judges believe they literally have the right to make social policy.

No one will stop them. And it's only going to get worse.

12 posted on 09/30/2017 9:58:56 PM PDT by CatOwner
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Separation of church and state meant that the government would not force people to participate in a religion that may not have been theirsand fund it with tax dollars. That was the religious oppression early Americans were escaping.

This obsession about not allowing prayer and religious symbols in government is straight crap.


13 posted on 09/30/2017 9:59:36 PM PDT by Crucial
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It is FULL of evil symbols:
1. Cross
2. American flag
3. Filthy factories spewing foul pollution making products for our consumer society that nobody needs.
5. Cows emitting farts causing climate catastrophe
6. Liberty Bell representing the Constitution which is an anachronistic “charter of negative liberties” created by old white men.

They better start with a clean sheet of paper. Maybe show some “Lehigh Kneelere”?


14 posted on 09/30/2017 10:02:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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A cross on the seal is not an establishment of religion in any way shape or form

Never mind that, Pennsylvania isn't mentioned in the First Amendment, Congress, however, is. The reason the establishment clause was included was so that the individual states could have that power.

15 posted on 09/30/2017 10:03:26 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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“straight crap.” Pure unadulterated crap.


16 posted on 09/30/2017 10:03:36 PM PDT by Fungi (90 percent of all soil biomass is a fungus. Fungi rule the world.)
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Separation of church and state

Yeah.....there isn't such a thing.

17 posted on 09/30/2017 10:04:31 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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Smith made it known in his ruling that he was not happy about the decision he had to make but was following the rule of constitutional law, including the establishment clause, which states that Congress may not pass any laws establishing a religion.

Congress did not do ANYTHING for him to rule on. Therefore no jurisdiction in this matter. The Lehigh government should announce the ruling is officially nullfied, and display the 1st and 10th Amendments on large placards so the public can be educated in this matter.

18 posted on 09/30/2017 10:15:27 PM PDT by montag813 (ue)
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To: ForYourChildren; NFHale; randita; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; ...

Impy tells U.S. District Judge Edward Smith to go suck on a rotten egg.


19 posted on 09/30/2017 10:20:12 PM PDT by Impy (The democrat party is the enemy of your family and civilization itself, forget that at your peril.)
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A cross (which could simply be interpreted as a letter t if you like) in a county seal is not remotely close to “establishing” a religion.


20 posted on 09/30/2017 10:22:10 PM PDT by Impy (The democrat party is the enemy of your family and civilization itself, forget that at your peril.)
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