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Cuban Doctors Revolt: ‘You Get Tired of Being a Slave’
New York Times ^ | 9/29/2017 | ERNESTO LONDOÑO

Posted on 09/29/2017 3:09:47 PM PDT by Incorrigible

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To: Lysandru

21 posted on 09/29/2017 4:11:44 PM PDT by Enchante ( I lost my tagline, has anyone found it???)
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To: Incorrigible
That is precisely what I said about the consequences of 0bamaCare and the evil idea of a "right to healthcare."

Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner (and Bernie Sanders) has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Bad Laws and Unintended Consequences, part 1.

Obamacare Rips Doctor-Patient Relationship Apart

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)


22 posted on 09/29/2017 4:21:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: Incorrigible

Socialist Medicine bump for later....


23 posted on 09/29/2017 4:37:06 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: ealgeone

...but, but, but Cubans have one of the best health care systems in the world...


24 posted on 09/29/2017 4:52:56 PM PDT by smileyface (Things looking up in RED PA! I love President Trump!)
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To: bunkerhill7
"Doctor heel thyself."

Is that like "suture self?" ;-)

25 posted on 09/29/2017 4:56:48 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Incorrigible

Bunch of “Gusanos”. /s


26 posted on 09/29/2017 4:56:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Incorrigible

This is what the democrats want for the US.


27 posted on 09/29/2017 5:03:25 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: sparklite2

“Would they go after a doctor ho jumped the plantation?”

No, they just have to go after his family.


28 posted on 09/29/2017 5:05:50 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: smileyface
...but, but, but Cubans have one of the best health care systems in the world...

Isn't that what fat boy Moore told us??

29 posted on 09/29/2017 5:09:40 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

But if he has family back in Cuba, I don’t think his backup plan would be coming to the US. His family would still be subject to recriminations.

The crux of my post is why the ones who planned to get to the US don’t just walk away from the deal. Would Brazil, who is paying Cuba for the doctors, go after the ones who went Galt? If so, what does that say about Brazil?


30 posted on 09/29/2017 5:17:28 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: Incorrigible

I notice it’s only the doctors outside of Cuba who are “rebelling.” I wonder why none of them in Cuba are. Things to ponder....


31 posted on 09/29/2017 5:58:19 PM PDT by henkster (The View: A psychiatric group therapy session where the shrink has stepped out of the room.)
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To: Incorrigible

Communism 101, you don’t own your labor, the government does.


32 posted on 09/29/2017 6:18:53 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: Incorrigible

Perhaps they should take a knee!


33 posted on 09/29/2017 6:40:50 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist ( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I won’t never let no body tell me different, no sir no how! ‘Cuz when Michael Moore say’s something is good that’s as good as money in the bank! *Sigh* I envy them Cubans havin’ all that free stuff ‘n’ junk we don’t get to have. Hey, I know! I live on The Jersey Shore. I’m gonna fix me up a boat and paddle of to Cuba. I’ll let you know how it works out when I get there. Bye now.... wish me lick!


34 posted on 09/30/2017 8:53:21 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Er, I meant wish me luck. Gosh, I’m just so excited. FREE STUFF! Yahoo!


35 posted on 09/30/2017 8:55:36 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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