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To: Old Yeller

NO, Jones respected both the Constitution and the players right to free speech, and peaceful protest, yet he did NOT allow them to disrespect the Flag or Anthem. Jones told them he would fire anyone who took a knee during the Anthem or disrespected the Flag! I respect that!

We either believe in the Constitution or NOT! I agree w Trump we need to boycott NFL, and those who do take a knee during the anthem, but it does NOT give us right to violate their right to peaceful protest, because we see them as wrong. I disagree with whole BLM perversion since all lives matter, and the Obama/Soros BLM is hoax on left.


27 posted on 09/25/2017 6:43:08 PM PDT by Ambrosia
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To: Ambrosia
The players have NO right to free speech on their employer's time.
41 posted on 09/25/2017 6:51:40 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Ambrosia
The Constitution has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the NFL allows players to protest during games.

The league or the owners could and should stop all protests during the national anthem. Failing to do so means both agree with the players protesting.

44 posted on 09/25/2017 6:53:29 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Ambrosia
You've never read the Constitution, have you?

If I'm wrong, and you have read it, please post the First Amendment here. Verbatim.

Then we can discuss if the First Amendment applies to this disgraceful situation or not.

45 posted on 09/25/2017 6:54:21 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Ambrosia
NO, Jones respected both the Constitution and the players right to free speech, and peaceful protest, yet he did NOT allow them to disrespect the Flag or Anthem. Jones told them he would fire anyone who took a knee during the Anthem or disrespected the Flag! I respect that

oh boy I doubt you even believe that. We all know what they are doing. Don't try to sugar coat it - the bloom is off the the NFL. Know your environment and act accordingly. This is not the time or the place for protesting it used to be for some smash mouth foozeball. Jerry Jones sucks like just like Collin Kapernick after tonight. Sorry thats the way it is.

58 posted on 09/25/2017 7:04:04 PM PDT by datricker (The wall will protect the border and be a symbol the voters do have a say in their government.)
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To: Ambrosia
...but it does NOT give us right to violate their right to peaceful protest, because we see them as wrong.

Yes, they have a right to peacefully protest, and their management has a right to peacefully fire them. Neither of these violates the Constitution.

61 posted on 09/25/2017 7:07:08 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Ambrosia

They don’t have the “ right to peaceful protest” on the customer’s time and dime

Imagine that happening at your place if employment. Insulting your customer base.

Screw the #FakeRights of the racial grievance crowd. I’m way past sick of their crybabying excuses and violence

Take out the logs in their own eyes


71 posted on 09/25/2017 7:14:01 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("I am SpartaLee" Hey, NFL, why didn't you any of you bold guys hire Kaepernick? #GoodbyeGoodell)
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To: Ambrosia

It is not against peaceful protest but what statement is being made through that protest. They are saying “We don’t appreciate the police, the soldiers, the history, or the President.” We are saying you and all your remaining fans can go fly a kite.


83 posted on 09/25/2017 7:19:07 PM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: Ambrosia

I am sorry to be a tad crass and disrespectful. I would take these jackasses and sew them up into “Human Centipede 4”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSPasDLQE2s


106 posted on 09/25/2017 7:27:31 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: Ambrosia
NO, Jones respected both the Constitution and the players right to free speech, and peaceful protest, yet he did NOT allow them to disrespect the Flag or Anthem. Jones told them he would fire anyone who took a knee during the Anthem or disrespected the Flag! I respect that!

We either believe in the Constitution or NOT! I agree w Trump we need to boycott NFL, and those who do take a knee during the anthem, but it does NOT give us right to violate their right to peaceful protest, because we see them as wrong. I disagree with whole BLM perversion since all lives matter, and the Obama/Soros BLM is hoax on left.

The Constitution does not apply here. The NFL is not part of the government so they can set the rules or not for any kind of protest.

The NFL have their own rules on what they are to do during the singing of the national anthem and they all violated those rules as they are to stand during it per NFL rules. But still, it's up to the NFL to allow it or not, the Constitution has nothing to do with it.

CGato

108 posted on 09/25/2017 7:28:16 PM PDT by Conservative Gato (There are NOW 4 kind of LIES; Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and the Media.)
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To: Ambrosia
We either believe in the Constitution or NOT!

This is not about the constitution. This is about nobody wanting to see their protest when they tune in for a football game. If they want to protest, do it on their own time. They are there to work, not make political statements. If they can't keep their work separate from their politics, they need to lose their work.

I agree w Trump we need to boycott NFL, and those who do take a knee during the anthem, but it does NOT give us right to violate their right to peaceful protest, because we see them as wrong. I disagree with whole BLM perversion since all lives matter, and the Obama/Soros BLM is hoax on left.

Again, nobody is telling them they can't protest. People just don't want to participate in their protest by being a captive audience. It's like protestors blocking traffic. They've got a right to protest, but they don't have a right to interfere with what I want to do with my rights.

Buy your own D@mn broadcast air time, don't use up that which belongs to others.

114 posted on 09/25/2017 7:38:21 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Ambrosia
We either believe in the Constitution or NOT!

What does any of this have to do with the Constitution?

122 posted on 09/25/2017 7:54:00 PM PDT by KevinB (When you drink the water, remember the men or women who dug the well.)
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To: Ambrosia

That’s all fine but people don’t purchase pro ball tickets that run into the thousands for these in-your-face statements and stunts just before the coin toss.

They couldn’t take me to an NFL game in a complementary fully stocked limousine with tickets in the box. Not interested in their politics. I never got that kind of political platform at work. Eff them.


132 posted on 09/25/2017 8:04:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Ambrosia

No he didn’t. The POS actually took a knee and locked arms with his players.


156 posted on 09/25/2017 11:54:03 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Ambrosia
NO, Jones respected both the Constitution and the players right to free speech, and peaceful protest, yet he did NOT allow them to disrespect the Flag or Anthem. Jones told them he would fire anyone who took a knee during the Anthem or disrespected the Flag! I respect that!

You can go respect all you want. I'm furious!

The NFL sells itself as entertainment. Were you entertained watching that spectacle? I wasn't. It was political! And why should I need or want that?

OK, so they didn't "disrespect the Flag or Anthem." So what? Whatever their beef is:

I AM NOT ENTERTAINED BY THEIR PROTESTS!!!

Why do these people get political only on a nationally televised game day?

Freedom of Speech? If these whiners have freedom of speech only on game day when televised nationally, then all the rest of us have *no* freedom of speech at all (unless you have a TV network camped outside your house every Sunday afternoon so that you can take a knee for whatever issue chafes you).

So let them protest the same way we all do every day, except for game day -- when they should just STFU and play!

157 posted on 09/26/2017 12:20:48 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: Ambrosia
We either believe in the Constitution or NOT! I agree w Trump we need to boycott NFL, and those who do take a knee during the anthem, but it does NOT give us right to violate their right to peaceful protest, because we see them as wrong.

Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Congress has made no law abridging their freedom of speech, therefore that argument is null and void and I'm sick of hearing it. It's Constitution 101. It does not apply in this case. No one's First Amendment rights are violated when an employer makes rules contingent upon being hired that dictate what things are and are not acceptable before employment will commence. Things such as dress code, behavior, proselytizing on the job, vulgar or offensive language, how long your hair can be, how many tattoos you may have, what emblems, decals or "flare" you may add to your uniform, and in certain cases (such as the NFL code of conduct), your behavior when off the job. You read the contract and either sign on the line, or walk away, before you even become an employee. And if you fail to abide by the said code of conduct while an employee, you are fined, suspended, or fired as the employer sees fit.

Everything about these "protests" is in violation of rules that the NFL had long ago established, and which every football player agreed to before signing on the dotted line. Not only that, but it crosses every boundary regarding offending, belittling and pissing off the customer, as well as embarrassing and disparaging the employer.

I used to be a flight attendant and we were employed under a contract that was negotiated by a union, same as NFL players are. Our contract covered minutiae such as skirt length, heel height, hairstyle, and even weight (at one point), etc. in addition to work hour and scheduling rules, behavior while on flights as well as in the terminal, speech and behavior when representing as an employee even out of uniform...it went on and on. And all of it legal under the Constitution. If you don't agree to the terms, you are free to find another employer. Simple really. Do you think for one minute that before I started the safety video on a flight and I decided to use the opportunity I had while all eyes were on me to do a BLM black power salute and make some protest speech that I would not have been fired before the plane even pushed back from the gate? And would I have been able to excuse it all as my "right to peacefully protest?" Think again.

160 posted on 09/26/2017 2:21:13 AM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: Ambrosia
We either believe in the Constitution or NOT! I agree w Trump we need to boycott NFL, and those who do take a knee during the anthem, but it does NOT give us right to violate their right to peaceful protest, because we see them as wrong.

How does refusing to subsidize their protest equate to "violating" their right to protest? You are mistaking liberty with license, FRiend.

212 posted on 10/02/2017 6:51:00 AM PDT by MortMan (NFL kneelers: A colonoscopy is not supposed to be a self-exam.)
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