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In Venezuela, they were teachers and doctors. To buy food, they became prostitutes.
Miami Herald ^ | Deptember 22, 2017 | Jim Wyss

Posted on 09/25/2017 1:31:54 PM PDT by grundle

Edited on 09/25/2017 1:32:32 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

At a squat, concrete brothel on the muddy banks of the Arauca River, Gabriel S

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KEYWORDS: communism; prostitution; venezuela
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To: HLPhat

“Or organize into a community that grows it...”

Because the gov’t, the military, or the zombies would come and take it and maybe kill them in the process.


21 posted on 09/25/2017 1:56:34 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: PLMerite

[Because the gov’t, the military, or the zombies would come and take it and maybe kill them in the process.]

SMH. Ever hear which part of common human anatomy excuses are like?

Meanwhile...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYpDlwx44pI


22 posted on 09/25/2017 2:02:14 PM PDT by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: pingman

I agree. No doubt about it.


23 posted on 09/25/2017 2:04:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national puch-bowl.)
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To: bert

“Hmmm.... who has the money to pay them?”

US Secret Service?


24 posted on 09/25/2017 2:10:26 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: PLMerite

[Because the gov’t, the military, or the zombies would come and take it and maybe kill them in the process.]

Maybe the zombies only come out when it’s dark... and the urban farms aren’t being filmed.

[Voices from Venezuela: Urban Agriculture]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3aYiHdqYng

Did this work, why... why not?

Maybe the “professionals” were too lazy to farm... or something.


25 posted on 09/25/2017 2:12:16 PM PDT by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: grundle

the NEA does the same thing but they prostitute themselves for the Dems


26 posted on 09/25/2017 2:22:08 PM PDT by beergarden
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To: grundle

“Preppers” in Venezuela?

[Venezuela Starts Education Program For Youth On Urban Agriculture]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXj2CRk3Clw


27 posted on 09/25/2017 2:23:52 PM PDT by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: grundle

They probably voted for Chavez and Maduro so forgive me if I am not entirely sympathetic.


28 posted on 09/25/2017 2:25:56 PM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: grundle

Ain’t Socialism grand?


29 posted on 09/25/2017 2:49:55 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: grundle

The glories of Socialism, works every time.


30 posted on 09/25/2017 2:53:56 PM PDT by Bayan
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To: Bayan

The one thing money can’t buy. Poverty.


31 posted on 09/25/2017 3:05:45 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat
The one thing money can’t buy. Poverty.

Tell that to George Soros. He has paid to impoverish millions!

32 posted on 09/25/2017 3:07:06 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: HLPhat
"Did this work, why... why not?"

I think the Soviets called them "collective farms". No, it didn't work.

The reasons typically boil down to corruption and lack of incentives.

One of the economic turning points just prior to the fall of the Soviet Union involved the sale of potatoes. The "owners" of the potatoes wanted to transport them to a distant place where the prices were higher. The local government insisted that the potatoes be sold locally at lower prices.

I think it may have been Gorbachev who overruled the local government, allowing the producers to seek the best prices. When I saw this happening, I knew the Soviet Union was dead.

The woman in the video is selling "socialism" not tomatoes. When you see the part of the video talking about "free" meals for the school kids, I see every kid wearing red clothing. This is typically what happens to socialists. They can only afford one type or color of clothing.

A friend of the family grew up in Berlin during the cold war. His cousins lived in East Germany. The socialist economy could only afford one type of water faucet. Almost every faucet in East Germany was identical and looked just like the hose bib outside my house. Socialist first engage in the "one size fits all" economy. Eventually even that one size becomes unavailable through legal channels and must be procured through a black market.

The lack of profit incentives causes socialists to make millions of decisions which are less than optimal. Eventually this acts as sand in the gears of the economy and the system grinds to a halt. Without the machine guns and barbed wire to imprison the people, socialist governments fail even faster than in the past. It took the Soviets 70 years to fail. Venezuela might only take 35.

33 posted on 09/25/2017 3:08:17 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell

>>I think the Soviets called them “collective farms”.
>>No, it didn’t work.

The Jesuits/Catholics had a different name:

https://www.google.com/search?q=paraguay+reductions+beautiful

>>lack of incentives.

Seems to me not starving would be a good incentive.

But, pigs in the farmhouse —>> “Corruption”

Yep.


34 posted on 09/25/2017 3:18:26 PM PDT by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: DoughtyOne

You’re the man!
Spoken like a true Christian


35 posted on 09/25/2017 3:18:57 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Keyhopper

I’m sure most folks on this forum think along the same lines.

I like restating facts to reinforce good thoughts in others.


36 posted on 09/25/2017 3:21:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national puch-bowl.)
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To: Keyhopper
Thank you Keyhopper.
37 posted on 09/25/2017 3:21:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national puch-bowl.)
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To: grundle

Venezuela is the democrat socialist dream of equality fully implimented-Equal poverty and misery for all.


38 posted on 09/25/2017 3:23:04 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for o)
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To: grundle

“The bourgeois sees in his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion than that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women. He has not even a suspicion that the real point is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production. For the rest, nothing is more ridiculous than the virtuous indignation of our bourgeois at the community of women which, they pretend, is to be openly and officially established by the Communists. The Communists have no need to introduce the community of women; it has existed almost from time immemorial. Our bourgeois, not content with having the wives and daughters of their proletarians at their disposal, not to speak of common prostitutes, take the greatest pleasure in seducing each other’s wives. Bourgeois marriage is in reality a system of wives in common and thus, at the most, what the Communists might possibly be reproached with, is that they desire to introduce, in substitution for a hypocritically concealed, an openly legalised community of women. For the rest, it is self-evident that the abolition of the present system of production must bring with it the abolition of the community of women springing from that system, i.e., of prostitution both public and private.”
Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto

Looks like Karl is wrong again.


39 posted on 09/25/2017 3:25:12 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: MeganC
They probably voted for Chavez and Maduro so forgive me if I am not entirely sympathetic.

That is an excellent point. Elections have consequences.

40 posted on 09/25/2017 3:27:23 PM PDT by grundle
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