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Fake News from The Washington Post About Immigrants and Gangs
Newsbusters.org ^ | September 23, 2017 | Jerome Woerle

Posted on 09/23/2017 1:13:15 PM PDT by Kaslin

Editor's Note: The following post has been slightly adapted from its original publication at Liberty Unyielding.

Aliens are foreigners, not citizens, as one can see from dictionary definitions. So they do not include the typical immigrant, who is a naturalized citizen. It was thus inaccurate for The Washington Post’s Jenna Portnoy to write a story last Thursday claiming that the House of Representatives had passed a bill allowing “immigrants” to be deported if they are criminal gang members, when in fact the bill was aimed at “aliens.” (“Bill lets officials deport immigrants for gang ties,” Sept. 15, pp. B1 & B5).

But the very name of the bill, the “Criminal Alien Gang Member Removal Act,” shows it is aimed at aliens, not immigrants. The more accurate Washington Examiner story on the bill observed:

The Criminal Alien Gang Member Removal Act passed in a 233-175 vote, and was backed largely by GOP lawmakers, and opposed by most Democrats. The legislation was introduced by Rep. Barbara Comstock, R-Va.

The bill would require illegal immigrants in gangs to be detained and deported, and ensures that gang members are not able to receive immigration benefits, including asylum, special immigrant juvenile status or temporary protected status.

“It will provide additional tools to law enforcement that will ensure that when [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] positively identifies a known alien gang member, they may act immediately,” Comstock said on the House floor. “We don’t have to wait until these brutal killers wield their machetes or leave another body on a children’s playground.”

By contrast, The Washington Post wrote that “the House on Thursday passed a bill introduced by Barbara Comstock (R-Va.) that would expand the authority of the federal government to deport or  detain immigrants who are gang members or suspected of gang activity.”

The Washington Post’s erroneous conflation of “immigrant” with “alien,” when many immigrants are citizens, was not only factually incorrect, but left the misimpression that this bill might be unconstitutional (The Post story said the bill was “slammed” by the ACLU). Aliens can often be deported for associations with dangerous, unsavory groups that citizens cannot be, under Supreme Court rulings such as Reno v. American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (1999).

Aliens are not citizens. Aliens include both illegal aliens, and legal aliens, such as people temporarily allowed in the country to study or work (such as H-1B visas). Illegal aliens are sometimes misleadingly referred to as “illegal immigrants,” even though they have no legal right to remain in the country, and thus are not “immigrants.” Because they are aliens, not immigrants, the Supreme Court — even its liberal justices — have referred to them as “illegal aliens,” as the Justices did in Arizona v. United States (2012), which ruled that certain Arizona regulations aimed at illegal aliens were preempted by federal law.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: aliens; conservativesrepubs; crime; gangs; immigration; libsanddemonrats; washingtoncompost

1 posted on 09/23/2017 1:13:15 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Conflating “immigrant” and “alien” is misleading and INTENTIONAL.

But we’re stuck with these media games as the only choice for our side is to BUY THESE OUTLETS, and then fire the people who use their positions to lie to the public...and yet no one on our side is willing to step up and do that.


2 posted on 09/23/2017 1:18:45 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: Kaslin

citizenship can be stripped from naturalized citizens who commit felonies - so they’re half right


3 posted on 09/23/2017 1:23:08 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: blueplum

I don’t think so.
Citizenship can be stripped if they immigrant can be proven to have lied or provided falsified data on their immigration and naturalization paperwork and interviews.

This happened a number of times with former Nazis who omitted their histories.


4 posted on 09/23/2017 1:35:34 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: blueplum
Of course they can, and they also can be deported Check this out

Palestinian ex-terrorist to be deported from Chicago

Rasmea Odeh, who didn't tell US authorities she was jailed for 10 years in Israel over 1969 Jerusalem bombing, to be sent to Jordan

5 posted on 09/23/2017 2:04:59 PM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero))
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To: SJSAMPLE; blueplum
I posted this yesterday

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3587865/posts>

They can be stripped of their citizenship and deported.

6 posted on 09/23/2017 2:20:23 PM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero))
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To: BobL

Yep Rush Limbaugh comes to mind.


7 posted on 09/23/2017 2:38:55 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I think you’re right and I was wrong. It’s illegals that go for felonies. Naturalized is more tricky.

But this could prove to be a good discussion topic. I recall Lennon’s fight with immigration, which led to the beginnings of ‘deferred action’. Maybe we should ask, is ‘dual citizenship’ and DA a good idea in a hostile world?

the website NOLO says: “To lose U.S. nationality, a person must both (1) voluntarily perform any of seven “expatriating” acts defined by law, and (2) perform the act or acts with a conscious desire (or specific intent) to abandon (relinquish) his or her U.S. nationality.”

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/when-us-citizens-can-lose-us-citizenship.html

I think the first five on the list below have to be ‘out of country’ acts. Here’s ‘the seven’:

INA § 349 states that a citizen, whether a U.S. citizen by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing certain acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality. The fact of intention is critical; it is not the mere performance of the actions mentioned in § 349. Seven types of conduct are currently listed in the INA as expatriate. The potentially expatriating acts are: (1) applying for and obtaining naturalization in a foreign country, provided the person is at least 18 years old; (2) making an oath of allegiance to a foreign country, provided the person is at least 18 years old; (3) serving in the military of a foreign country as a commissioned or noncommissioned officer or when the foreign state is engaged in hostilities against the United States; (4) serving in a foreign government position that requires an oath of allegiance to or the nationality of that foreign country, provided the person is at least 18 years old; (5) making a formal renunciation of U.S. citizenship to a consular officer outside of the United States; (6) making a formal renunciation of citizenship while in the United States and during time that the United States is involved in a war; and (7) conviction for treason or attempting by force to overthrow the U.S. government, including conspiracy convictions.

https://bmkllp.com/newsletters/immigration/loss-of-citizenship-for-u-s-born-citizens/


8 posted on 09/23/2017 2:47:27 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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