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'No Fascist USA!': how hardcore punk fuels the Antifa movement
theguardian.com ^ | 9/9/2017 | Jamie Thomson

Posted on 09/10/2017 5:10:59 AM PDT by rktman

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To: Chipper

Exactly. Still have one of their cd’s from the ‘90s when they came out to lecture us on guns. It has two nice .223 holes in it.


21 posted on 09/10/2017 6:40:00 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: rktman

This definition does not sound like Donald Trump. He does not exalt the nation above the individual; he just wants better deals for America and the American people in the international arena. Race is a complete non-issue, no matter how much the lamesteams lie about Trump’s views.

Definition of fascism

often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition


22 posted on 09/10/2017 6:54:39 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: rktman

Liberals are the real fascists! Democrats are the real racists! We just need to explain this to them. Learning this truth will cause them to feel shame, and reexamine their politics, and stop being drug addicts and perverts. Maybe Rush could do a few segments on this.


23 posted on 09/10/2017 7:08:30 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: rktman

I spent 25 years in the back of vans, touring the world submerged in this culture. No, Green Day had no imprint in our world at all. Yes, these people are a large part of who is behind those black masks.

They are completely ignorant of history and politics. They have zero understanding of issues or legislation. Their left leanings are Pavlovian reflex.

Their love of rioting is simply a fashion that fits their self image. That’s it. No more to it. It’s no different than a Mohawk or combat boots. It’s their idea of being “punk”. It’s the ultimate in posing.

There is no reasoning with them. They are stupid. As soon as there are consequences they will stop immediately.


24 posted on 09/10/2017 7:23:25 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: a fool in paradise

And anyone who supports Trump and loves America is a Nazi.


25 posted on 09/10/2017 7:38:42 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: a fool in paradise

And anyone who supports Trump and loves America is a Nazi.


26 posted on 09/10/2017 7:38:42 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: The Toll
🍩🍪. Time to make the consequences. 👹
27 posted on 09/10/2017 7:43:09 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Bigg Red

Anyone who isn’t a Communist comrade is a nazi and a poopypants.


28 posted on 09/10/2017 8:00:07 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: mothball
All of the guys that I grew up with in the early 80’s that were into punk, turned out to be staunch conservatives.

I have the same experience growing up and into serving in the Army. Later in the 90's we would listen to Rage Against the Machine and other "anti-establishment" groups to get pumped up for deployments. None of us were anything close to being leftarded. I am a huge Classic Rock fan and don't come close to identifying with druggies,hippies,ant-Americans and all of the other counter culture BS,but I just love the music.

29 posted on 09/10/2017 9:13:39 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: DoodleBob
"The Kennedys were anti-fascist but "

but, what?

30 posted on 09/10/2017 9:19:54 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: rktman
Jello Biafra of the Dead Kennedys, who wrote Holiday in Cambodia a definitely anti-totalitarian song, turns out to be a liberal anti-leftist who believes in free speech.

Even though I disagree with him on most every topic he appears to be a decent human being ... unlike the antifa scum.

31 posted on 09/10/2017 9:20:20 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Travis McGee

Rule 308 is on the verge of being applied liberally.


32 posted on 09/10/2017 9:25:20 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: TADSLOS

LOL, applied liberally...


33 posted on 09/10/2017 9:46:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Freudian slip...😃
34 posted on 09/10/2017 9:49:37 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: cdcdawg

You can’t explain it to them. People like billie jean from green gay or whatever that pimple-pop “punk” band is called, have been brainwashed for so long that they think up is down, the world is flat, and the sky is purple.


35 posted on 09/10/2017 10:22:52 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: rktman

Green Day can kiss my a$$, they wrote a song in 2004 called “American Idiot” Never listened to them after that.

American Idiot, Green Day:

Don’t want to be an American idiot
Don’t want a nation controlled by the media
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mind-fuck America
Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the idiot nation
Where everything isn’t meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We’re not the ones who’re meant to follow
For that’s enough to argue
Well maybe I’m the faggot America
I’m not a part of a redneck agenda
Now everybody adhere to propaganda
And sing along to the age of paranoia
Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the idiot nation
Where everything isn’t meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We’re not the ones who’re meant to follow
For that’s enough to argue
Don’t want to be an American idiot
One nation controlled by the media
Information Age of hysteria
It’s calling out to idiot America
Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the idiot nation
Where everything isn’t meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We’re not the ones who’re meant to follow
For that’s enough to argue
Songwriters: BILLIE JOE ARMSTRONG, FRANK E., III WRIGHT, MICHAEL PRITCHARD

https://www.bing.com/search?q=american+idiot+lyrics&qs=AS&pq=%22american+idiot%22+l&sc=8-18&cvid=508A6CD3D5D944BD97B6B58A56FBE0C0&FORM=QBRE&sp=1


36 posted on 09/10/2017 10:56:08 AM PDT by Garvin ("Charlie, don't surf")
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To: Garvin

PS, see my new (old)tagline


37 posted on 09/10/2017 11:05:18 AM PDT by Garvin (Sabo: "Republicans Are The New Punk")
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To: jackibutterfly
...but in the very cited article, Biafra is anti-Antifa (even if he is wrong On other levels):

“I’m not down with confronting [the extreme right’s] provocations of violence with actual violence. I mean, self-defence is one thing, but going to a Trumpist rally with the express purpose of beating up fascists – what does that accomplish? Who’s the fascist now? It plays right into their hands,” he says.

“More than ever, we have to keep our heads right now. And I am all about freedom of speech, but I think protesting these people non-violently is the way to go, because it lets the targets of the fascist speakers know they’re not alone and lets the fascists who show up know that there’s an awful lot of people who are not down with them, and a chorus of raised middle fingers is better than showing up with some kind of a weapon. Escalating the violence is not the way to go.”

38 posted on 09/10/2017 11:14:17 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: Travis McGee
4 Rule 308 (three-oh-eight) ...

Breaker Morant - Rule 303

39 posted on 09/10/2017 12:58:06 PM PDT by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: MacNaughton

Rule 308 might be applied liberally if trends continue.


40 posted on 09/10/2017 1:15:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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