Posted on 09/09/2017 2:08:31 PM PDT by NautiNurse
The entire Florida Peninsula and points north are poised to experience Hurricane Irma after the storm hugged Cuba's northern coastline. Thousands of Floridians who evacuated the Atlantic cost to Gulf Coast areas found their safe shelter under direct threat from Hurricane Irma as the forecast shifted W Friday night and Saturday. Hurricane Irma's prolonged interaction with Cuba diminished its strength to Category 3.
Irma is forecast to increase in strength as it crosses the FL Straits. The Florida Keys experienced strong outer bands while Irma grazed the N Cuba coastline.
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Hurricane Irma Live Thread I
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So if you are seriously ill and I've committed years of my life to school and borrowed hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay the costs of that schooling to become a surgeon, you should be able to obtain my services for free? That's pure Marxist redistributionist bullshit. Whether it's a loaf of bread or an hour in a surgical suite. Whatever the hell are you doing on Free Republic? You are ethically challenged. Look up the works of Milton Friedman and Friedrich Von Hayek. Yeah I know, two old dead white guys.
That’s utter hyperbole. Florida has been blessed to have dodged a major bullet. Yes there was surge, yes there was wind but nothing even remotely on the order of a Category 5, 4 or even a 3, not even in Key West. Damage is minor by comparison, the worst will be due to spin-off tornadoes, not the hurricane.
Maybe "broadcastress" will make its way into the Urban Dictionary? ;)
Cool, overcast, windy/ breezy here in Mobile this morning. I actually have some small limbs down from a pecan tree.
Wife’s friend from years back evacuated Key West and came up to NC with the women.
Husband and son-in-law decided to ride it out. Oh, well, best of luck to them.
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How have they survived the storm on Key West? Have you heard yet?
A survival act? It would take more than days for me to consider something a survival act. People need to be prepared, what were they going to do about milk, bread, and diapers if there had not been a hurricane? I did not see anyone stealing food or diapers. I saw people stealing shoes mostly...stealing is stealing, if it truly is for survival then the thief needs to make amends to the person they stole from. You cannot simply take something because you want it.
They were fine. One story bungalow only had one broken window and got a little damp. Went next door to the neighbor’s two story home during the worst of the storm and everyone there stayed on the second floor.
That may very well be true. At least one computer model is showing this.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/storm-tracker/#?tab=map&stormId=12L&stormName=JOSE
Looks like I have to eat crow on the Tampa Bay sea level drop. News accounts I saw said it dropped 4 to 5 feet and pulled back several hundred yards.
I just heard that for the first time ever, Atlanta was given a tropical storm warning.
Actually now I’m see models spread over a pretty wide area, with most showing Jose going north up the coast after completing the loop. There is this one outlier showing Jose going into the coast of Florida on Sunday. This will of course change a lot in the next few days.
https://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_12
DRUDGE ran a headline last year for Hurricane Mathew. As I recall, the NHC (and hence the wx presstitutes) were talking 140 kts but nobody on the ground saw anything like those kind of winds. When IRMA went by Puerto Rico, I looked at the closest coastal NOAA station to it and saw the same, 40 kts when it wasn't that far from the eye wall. So when Irma came up to the Keys, here are the graphs from 2 stations to the west of Big Pine Key, and two stations to the east.
Station west of Key West
Key West
Vaca key, just to the east of Marathon
Molasses Reef, farthermost east
Because the NHC described Irma as a CAT 4 when it came up to the Keys, it is obvious there is a problem. NOT ONE of these four stations saw sustained winds of 75 mph, NOT ONE. And the wind gusts? Also does NOT support the figures the NHC and the weather presstitutes were broadcasting.
Possible explanation?
1. ALL of the NOAA stations are incorrectly calibrated and they grossly read BELOW the actual wind speed
2. The NHC has decided that to keep the public focused (and hence scared) they described it as a vicious potential killer that has no equal in history. Fudging the CAtegory of the hurricane up above actual is a justified white lie.
3. The NHC, being composed of government meterologists, is on the global warming side of the equation. By saying it was a CAT 4 storm when it was probably a CAT 1 or 2, they scared the public AND also contributed to the globull warming argument.
I think the correct answer may be that it is a bit of (2) and a lot of (3). I would like to see WikiLeaks publish the meteorologists' emails and see if there was collusion to lie about the storms. :-)
As a check, when the storm went ashore near Venice, this station was near the eye. Again, no hurricane force sustained winds were detected and the wind gusts were NOT consistent with a CAT 1 much less a CAT 4 that I think it was labeled.
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The information and graphs are still available.
I absolutely agree. I spent quite a bit of time watching various online reporting, both weather service and personal weather stations seeing absolutely none reporting hurricane strength winds. At one point they reference two private weather stations/reports to claim the winds. Most of the reporters were never seen with anything more than heavy wind or gusts. Heck we regularly get more wind off the hillside where I live than they ever showed. Yes, hype, exaggeration, lying is what we saw with this storm. And wall-to-wall fearmongering.
Please take me off your ping list. Those giant graphics are a bit much - it’s now harder to find my pings. Thanks.
I agree with a lot of what you said. However, I was thinking back to the LA Rodney King riots, and seeing shots of men breaking windows and then everyone grabbing TVs and other electronics and running away with them. On the other hand there was a woman pushing a baby carriage with small child inside going through a looted store and picking up cans of food, cereal boxes, and other basic necessities to maintaining life. I don’t think any ethical surgeon would begrudge that woman the few things she picked up for basic survival. On the other hand I was glad to hear that a number of LA merchants were armed and ready to shoot looters if they tried to break in.
Thank you for this detailed graph. Unfortunately, it only covers the US statistics. They just showed video on the situation in the British Virgin Islands. Every tree had lost all it’s leaves from wind and virtually all buildings were destroyed or flattened. I wonder what their landfall wind might have been. Cuba also has sustained much damage. Called my son in Puerto Rico and he says things are not too bad, although I also heard that half the population has no electricity.
What may have happened is that as the winds blew east to west on the upper side of the hurricane, they pushed the water out to sea, but then as they circle around and come from west to east on the bottom side, they blow the sea back in which causes the surge.
Tammy8: See my comment #2237
Just saw a Miami Herald article about one of our aircraft carriers being dispatched to the Keys for search and rescue duty presumably...
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/article172527796.html
... don’t know if Miami Herald is on the list of no nos.
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