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Hurricane Irma: Massive effort to ship fuel into Florida, ease gas shortages
foxnews.com ^ | 9/8/17 | foxnews

Posted on 09/08/2017 1:54:11 PM PDT by ColdOne

The Trump administration has waived a key statute to allow for “as many ships as possible” to bring fuel into Florida, as part of a massive effort to ease gas shortages for Florida residents and others in the path of Hurricane Irma.

“We’re bringing in as much supply of refined fuel as possible,” Tom Bossert, White House homeland security adviser, told reporters on Friday.

The move was made in conjunction with state officials in Florida who are scrambling to get fuel to the pumps and alleviate gas shortages. Florida has taken several steps to expedite those shipments.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: evacuation; gasprices; irma; preparedness; trumpfema
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To: cyclotic

And frankly Williams is a pin head when he tries to tie black society’s misbehavior to cherry picked “redneck” conduct. Being a redneck of the kind who prefers to get his neck red picking his own cotton, I take umbrage at this smear.


21 posted on 09/08/2017 3:17:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; cyclotic

????

cyclotic backed up his position with comments from 2 well respected economists and one consumer protection reporter.

Your reply to him seemed a bit snarky.

Do you have any links to support your position that anti gouging laws will increase supplies faster?


22 posted on 09/08/2017 3:19:35 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

We’ve gotten into it before and I find you unwilling to consider other opinions.

But, try this. You own a gas station. You have a finite amount of fuel and thousands of cars lining up to buy it. By raising prices to meet you r limited supply with high demand, people will limit what they buy to what they need, not what they want.

So, you made some extra profit, but, in order to keep your employees from evacuating early, you had to offer them a bonus to stick around till the end, say double the pay. The storm hits and your gas station gets hammered. These same customers expect you to be open quickly after the storm. There’s no power for days, so you have to truck in emergency generators to run your pumps. Internet is down, so it’s cash only. You may need to bring in some armed guards to protect your store. you’re still paying your employees extra so they come to work and put off fixing their homes, you can’t get away to fix your own home. In the end, the short time that you had to charge extra doesn’t result in any sort of windfall, instead, you may break even. And, you’re still servicing all of your customers. It’s a business though, not a charity.


23 posted on 09/08/2017 3:19:37 PM PDT by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: PeteB570

Doubtless the war time payback would happen either way. This isn’t going on in a vacuum. It is cyclotic who is the snarky one here.

“Economists” tend to be very poor anthropologists.


24 posted on 09/08/2017 3:22:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Thought so

No links


25 posted on 09/08/2017 3:24:31 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How do electric car make out in floods or just high water?


26 posted on 09/08/2017 3:24:35 PM PDT by umgud
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To: vooch

A fuel shortage exists because few individuals maintain a personal/family tactical fuel reserve. Especially to get over Memorial Day, 4th, Labor day and hurricane season fuel crunches.


27 posted on 09/08/2017 3:24:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: cyclotic

When a war comes all sensible citizens do switch to charity mode and the rewards are often difficult to account for by classic peacetime economics.

That’s why both hoarders and gougers are punished. You cannot change anthropology.


28 posted on 09/08/2017 3:26:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: cyclotic

When a war comes all sensible citizens do switch to charity mode and the rewards are often difficult to account for by classic peacetime economics.

That’s why both hoarders and gougers are punished. You cannot change anthropology.


29 posted on 09/08/2017 3:26:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: PeteB570

A link to God and wisdom suffices. Try reading Proverbs for a general clue.


30 posted on 09/08/2017 3:27:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“The peace time rules are superseded in time of war —”

Really?

There was a thriving black market all during WWII.

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31 posted on 09/08/2017 3:28:51 PM PDT by Mears
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To: HiTech RedNeck

And any minute now you’re going to rent a big flat bed rig, load it down with plywood, drive it down to southern Florida and sell it for cost?

After all......


32 posted on 09/08/2017 3:28:54 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Paladin2

‘hoarders’

so you think a command and control economy al la Stalin is the best way to allocate scarce resources ?

why not let the free market work it’s magic ? Allow prices to rise to increase supply


33 posted on 09/08/2017 4:06:57 PM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: ColdOne

I’m starting to get a feeling that Miami-Fort Lauderdale might be spared, it seems to be going more west than they were expecting and it just might plow into Cuba, which certainly would weaken it.


34 posted on 09/08/2017 4:09:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: vooch

Having a private supply long before the crisis is not hoarding. It’s planning ahead. Being prepared. It’s not the cheapest way to go, nor the easiest. I does tend to avoid the crowds though.

I lived through Jimmah Carter’s fake gov’t caused shortages and found them to be a total hassle.


35 posted on 09/08/2017 4:11:40 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: GotMojo

“pipe lines matter”....preparedness matters also....people in Florida have had a week of heavy warnings to leave ASAP....


36 posted on 09/08/2017 4:36:19 PM PDT by yoe
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To: Paladin2

good man !

and hoarders should be applauded not condemened

price gougers should also be hailed as hero’s for bringing much needed supplies


37 posted on 09/08/2017 4:45:55 PM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: JBW1949

Sandy was not a HURRICANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


38 posted on 09/08/2017 4:51:31 PM PDT by goodtomato (I'm really, really blessed!)
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To: goodtomato

Hurricane Sandy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hurricane Sandy
Category 3 major hurricane (SSHWS/NWS)
Sandy Oct 25 2012 0320Z.png
Hurricane Sandy at peak intensity just before landfall in Cuba on October 25
Formed October 22, 2012
Dissipated November 2, 2012
(Extratropical after October 29)
Highest winds 1-minute sustained: 115 mph (185 km/h)
Lowest pressure 940 mbar (hPa); 27.76 inHg
Fatalities 233 total (direct and indirect)
Damage $75 billion (2012 USD)
(Second-costliest hurricane in U.S. history)
Areas affected Greater Antilles, Bahamas, most of the eastern United States (especially the coastal Mid-Atlantic States), Bermuda, eastern Canada
Part of the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season
General

Meteorological history
Impact

Greater Antilles
United States
Maryland and Washington, D.C.
New Jersey
New York
New England
Canada
Other wikis

Commons: Sandy images
Wikinews: Sandy stories
Hurricane Sandy (unofficially referred to as “Superstorm Sandy”)[1][2] was the deadliest and most destructive hurricane of the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season, and the second-costliest hurricane in United States history.[3] Classified as the eighteenth named storm, tenth hurricane and second major hurricane of the year, Sandy was a Category 3 storm at its peak intensity when it made landfall in Cuba.[3] While it was a Category 2 hurricane off the coast of the Northeastern United States, the storm became the largest Atlantic hurricane on record (as measured by diameter, with winds spanning 1,100 miles (1,800 km)).[4][5] Estimates as of 2015 assessed damage to have been about $75 billion (2012 USD), a total surpassed only by Hurricane Katrina.[6] At least 233 people were killed along the path of the storm in eight countries.[7][8]

Sandy developed from a tropical wave in the western Caribbean Sea on October 22, quickly strengthened, and was upgraded to Tropical Storm Sandy six hours later. Sandy moved slowly northward toward the Greater Antilles and gradually intensified. On October 24, Sandy became a hurricane, made landfall near Kingston, Jamaica, re-emerged a few hours later into the Caribbean Sea and strengthened into a Category 2 hurricane. On October 25, Sandy hit Cuba as a Category 3 hurricane, then weakened to a Category 1 hurricane. Early on October 26, Sandy moved through the Bahamas.[9] On October 27, Sandy briefly weakened to a tropical storm and then restrengthened to a Category 1 hurricane. Early on October 29, Sandy curved west-northwest (the “left turn” or “left hook”) and then[10] moved ashore near Brigantine, New Jersey, just to the northeast of Atlantic City, as a post-tropical cyclone with hurricane-force winds.[3][11]

In Jamaica, winds left 70% of residents without electricity, blew roofs off buildings, killed one, and caused about $100 million (2012 USD) in damage. Sandy’s outer bands brought flooding to Haiti, killing at least 54, causing food shortages, and leaving about 200,000 homeless; the hurricane also caused two deaths in the Dominican Republic. In Puerto Rico, one man was swept away by a swollen river. In Cuba, there was extensive coastal flooding and wind damage inland, destroying some 15,000 homes, killing 11, and causing $2 billion (2012 USD) in damage. Sandy caused two deaths and damage estimated at $700 million (2012 USD) in The Bahamas.

In the United States, Hurricane Sandy affected 24 states, including the entire eastern seaboard from Florida to Maine and west across the Appalachian Mountains to Michigan and Wisconsin, with particularly severe damage in New Jersey and New York. Its storm surge hit New York City on October 29, flooding streets, tunnels and subway lines and cutting power in and around the city.[12][13] Damage in the United States amounted to $71.4 billion (2013 USD).[14] In Canada, two were killed in Ontario and an estimated $100 million (2012 CAD) in damage was caused throughout Ontario and Quebec.[15]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm??? Who to believe???


39 posted on 09/08/2017 4:58:35 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I hit the emergency pump stop yesterday. Jackwagon idiot tried filling his plastic 5 gal. containers while in his pickup truck bed which had a plastic bed liner. I approached him, nicely, and cautioned him about the possibility of static electricity. He blew me off so I told the clerk. No response, so I hit the clearly marked button as I left and drove away!


40 posted on 09/08/2017 4:59:45 PM PDT by goodtomato (I'm really, really blessed!)
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