Posted on 09/05/2017 10:11:15 AM PDT by goodnesswins
A guy at work told me about it: https://breezometer.com/air-quality-map/
Just type in your town or address and check your air quality.
Haven't read the whole thread yet, maybe posted, but thought I would get it out there. Another guy from Montana said there were over 60 fires there.
They can’t. Dropping retardant and water from the air is all that can be done, and making fire lines so the fire can’t cross, and back burning.
That’s what the sun has looked like at my place for so many weeks I can’t remember what a regular sun and blue sky look like. Actually in SW OR the sun is often redder.
here is a link to ‘active’ wildfire maps....take a look at Montanna....
http://projects.oregonlive.com/wildfires/map/#6/45.462/-116.595
Yes, I always think of the animals.
And the environazis, and how much I hate the latter.
No, dropped from a helicopter into the fire he started.
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Woman Witnessed Teen Tossing Firecrackers Into Gorge:
“There Was a Whole Group of Kids Who Found It Funny To Do This”.....“Just as I was passing them I said ‘Do you realize you just started a forest fire?’ and the kid said, ‘Well, what are we supposed to do about it now?’”
Here’s part of her story she shared with Police.....
When I came up to 1.5 miles up the trail, I came upon a large group of teenagers. They were kind of flanking the trail and I walked right in between them. I was standing right next to one of them who was filming and about four people away from me I saw a young boy lob a smoke bomb down into the ravine.
I said ‘Do you realize how dangerous it is what you just did? They have the trail closed up ahead because of a raging wildfire.’ I wanted to underscore the severity of what they just did. I said ‘This whole area is so dry.’
They didn’t say anything. And after he lobbed it I thought I heard a couple of girls giggle and the guy just filmed it like it was no big deal. And then they just continued down the trail.
I saw this couple coming down from the mountain and I said to them, ‘I just saw a teenager throw a firecracker down into the ravine and I think its smoking.’ And they said ‘Yea, we saw them up at Punch Bowl lighting off firecrackers.’
I turned around and I started running down the mountain and I ran past where I had seen them and I looked down and at that point it was huge amounts of smoke and I could smell that the forest was on fire.
I just ran down the whole mountain telling people as I came by them that there was a fire. I told them ‘I saw someone throw a firecracker, and it is smoking. I think it’s on fire, I saw smoke, I don’t know for sure that its on fire.’ Because I didn’t see flames but I saw billowing smoke and could smell the fire.
I kept running down and I don’t know that people were heeding my call.
I passed the teenagers at that point. It was a smaller group of maybe seven or nine. Just as I was passing them I said ‘Do you realize you just started a forest fire?’ and the kid said, ‘Well, what are we supposed to do about it now?’ And I yelled over my shoulder ‘Call the freaking fire department!’
I ran to the parking lot, didn’t see anybody, started running through the parking lot and came across law enforcement. I said ‘I need to report, I think there’s a fire. I saw a kid throw a firecracker and I saw all the smoke.’ He immediately called it in.
He then started getting my story and as I was telling him I said ‘Can we move and get to the trailhead because I’m afraid they’re going to get into one of the cars parked closer to the trail head and I don’t want them to just drive away.’
We started walking, and it was about twelve paces that we took, and I saw a minivan go by. It was all tinted windows in the back windows but I saw the female in the passenger side and I did not recognize her but she had an expression on her face that looked like she was getting away with something. She looked like she was having fun and she was excited about getting away. That’s what my gut told me. I looked at them and I said ‘I think that they’re in that car.’
He said ‘Are you comfortable getting in the car with me?’ and I said ‘Yes.’
We ran to the law enforcement car and we jumped in and he turned on the sirens. And the kids blazed through the parking lot with all these pedestrians and kids and stuff walking up to get to the trail.
Related: Infrared video peers through the smoke to show exactly where the fire is burning hottest.
The law enforcement officer is obviously delayed because he isn’t wanting to mow people over. We can’t see the minivan and then we can see them. Just as we were getting onto the onramp to the I-84 heading east he was right on their tail and they pulled over.
(KATU-TV)
(KATU-TV)
I had described the kid that I had seen throw the firecracker, caucasian, five-foot-six, fit, brown hair, shorts, he either didn’t have a shirt on or he was wearing a muscle tee or something.
The Forest Service guy was interviewing the kid in front of the car I was in and I couldn’t hear anything he was saying. The Forest Service guy came back to the car and looked at me expectantly and I said I can’t say for sure if it was him because this kid was wearing a blue t-shirt.
So, that kid went back into the minivan and another kid came out of the minivan and I had never really seen the other kid. Then he [the Forest Service officer] came back and I said ‘I don’t really recognize him’ and he said ‘Well, he just confessed that it was them who did it.’
Then the state patrol came. I went back to my car to get my phone and came back and at that point state patrol was there asking them questions. And I gave my report.
Then we were looking over our shoulder and could see smoke. We could see that it was full-on a fire and the smoke was just billowing up.
I felt like I was having a nightmare and I still feel like I am because they had no reaction that I could see. I don’t know these kids but just looking at them… and when they walked down the mountain, when I came upon them they were walking a very casual pace down the mountain.
I felt like I was in a nightmare because these kids were not reacting the way I felt normal people would react. It was all very frustrating.
I really felt like it’s not just that one boy that lobbed it. He had a friend that filmed it. There was a whole group of kids who found it funny to do this. The girl’s expression as she drove by. None of them seemed at all to understand what they were doing.
When I sat and watched the kids being interviewed by the police, I don’t know what they were feeling but I got a glimpse of at least one young woman or girl who looked like she was just hanging out like it was just any other day.”
Looks like a call for Trump to take a look at the Forest Service and the administration therein. What happened to the Forest Service during the Obama years? Infiltrated with environmental wackos and such? Did the Forest Service have a new mission of Muslim outreach like NASA? Anyone with any inside info?
Latest air quality numbers here in North Idaho, 18. Better than 7 this morning.
https://breezometer.com/air-quality-map/
and type in your town or address.
The Humboldt Bay region of NW Calif had a 20 minute lightening storm starting at 8:30 and it is moving east toward the already burning forests to the east which will add to the burden...
pray....
How dare you tell me what I meant!
People like you ruin FR.
Wonder if the warning is still up.
Stay safe.
June 2, 2012
Homeland Security Warns of Terrorist Wildfire Attacks
Though law enforcement has been warning of the use of fire as a weapon for years, the recent fervor over wildfires as a potential terrorist tactic is largely due to Inspire magazine, a slick online publication that is reportedly produced by Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. The most recent issue of Inspire featured multiple articles on the use of wildfire as a weapon in jihad, including a complete guide on creating an “ember bomb” that would likely have a “high failure rate when manufactured and utilized by untrained or inexperienced personnel” according to the DHS report.
https://publicintelligence.net/homeland-security-warns-of-terrorist-wildfire-attacks/
That so many Parks are being affected is .... worrisome...yes, I know, parks have forests...
I’m dealing with a 23 year old grandson who was brainwashed...I’m trying to explain to him that if you do not clean up the forest floor occasionally it becomes a fire trap....and that the environmentalists are the cause, pretty much.
THANKS...that’s very interesting. Our area is at 30.
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