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'Dreamer' dies trying to rescue Harvey flood victims
L A Times ^ | 09/04/2017 | Molly Hennessy-Fiske

Posted on 09/05/2017 7:53:08 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: Tennessee Nana
what do you think IMMIGRANTS experience ???

A CHOICE to stay or go. I'm assuming that you made the choice for yourself. If your parents brought you over, and were now discovered to have fudged information on their forms at the time, would it be fair to automatically eject you along with them?

Like I said, no easy answers.

61 posted on 09/05/2017 10:27:32 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ontap

no they can be 35...or any age apparently...

as long as they pretend and lie that they were under 16 when they arrive ...

but who can prove they are not ???

they are not required to prove with good documents that they arrived at age <16..and the govt isn’t required to attempt to prove they arent..after all how do you rubber stamp and yet take the time involved and required to check all 800,000 applicants and get them all finished over night...

its only IMMIGRANTS who have to provide evidence and documents and dot every i and cross every t...

they can be 25 and sport a beard and be in middle school...

and who can say they are not 12 ??? nobody is allowed to...

they could be 25 and have got here ALONE a few days before daca started (2012) but as long as they said their parents brought them here years ago when they were 5 yo they got daca... nobody checked anything..

they could have committed 3 documented crimes in the US and they still got daca...IMMIGRANTS are disqualified from entering the US if they have committed only one...and the process for background checks and police records is lengthy and thorough..but them theyre IMMIGRANTS they aren’t important like the daca are...


62 posted on 09/05/2017 10:29:29 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: BenLurkin

Prog trope: Because a single dreamer tried to be a hero, all are heroes! and should stay here entitled to support by taxpaying citizens.


63 posted on 09/05/2017 10:32:36 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: JimRed; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

As a candidate for IMMIGRATION I raised my right hand and swore that to the best of my knowledge all the information I had given on the forms I had filled out and signed and were under my left hand were true..I further swore that I understood and agreed that at any future time it was discovered I had “fudged” any of the info I would be deported...why do you give illegal aliens a pass ???

if the illegal alien parents brought their illegal alien child to this country and stayed the child got to be 18 and now an adult illegal alien committing the same crime of illegal entry in his own right, then I would expect if that person has any decency and respected our country and the laws he would go back to his own country and make it right by applying to IMMIGRATE here...

that I could understand and accept...do it the right way..

but they get no pass when they willfully as adults enter into their illegal alien parents crimes and continue the criminal activity...they are now responsible as adults for their own crime as adult illegal aliens...

they are no longer “children”

at age 8 I knew that it was wrong to enter the United States without permission...My mother vehemently objected to the news in the newspaper that illegal aliens entered the US and told me that was wrong...I didn’t even live in this country and I knew it was wrong of the illegal aliens to refuse to IMMIGRATE...

at age 16 I wanted to IMMIGRATE and I asked my father to sign for me to get a passport so that I could apply to IMMIGRATE...my father agreed that I should go but he told me to wait until I was 21 and get my own passport...

the day I was 21 I applied for a passport, and applied to the US Embassy to IMMIGRATE and WAITED...

Most of these so called “children” are older than I was when I chose to IMMIGRATE...

there is no excuse for these adult illegal aliens to refuse to get their lives straightened out..

they are no longer “children” (if they ever were) until their parents control...

if they are so bestest wonderful why didn’t they come forward years early to find out what they could do to change their illegal alien status...

they are liars and deceivers and IMMIGRANTS are refused if they lie on a document or cant prove some required item...

if they are so bestest wonderful why didn’t their parents go to the closest US Embassy and apply to come here the right way ???

don’t tell me they didn’t have the money for the fees...they managed to pay coyotes $8,000 and more to sneak them into our country...

don’t give me any sob stories about dying in the desert...they chose to come...

“eject” deport the illegal alien parents along with the illegal alien “children” don’t break up the family...

the “children” are blatantly living the same lie...they are not innocent two year olds any more...


64 posted on 09/05/2017 10:58:27 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: henkster

He might indeed have been a very fine human being.

That does not negate the fact that he was in this country illegally.


65 posted on 09/05/2017 11:21:06 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TADSLOS

I’m calling BS. I haven’t hear a word about this on the local Austin, TX news. Nothing on a search.

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66 posted on 09/05/2017 11:27:27 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Cowboy Bob

“When he was 14”?? - - I thought “Dreamers” were children who were brought here by their parents at a very young age, through no fault of their own; not a 14 year old that came here on his own - - -


67 posted on 09/05/2017 11:30:46 AM PDT by techrules2002
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To: BenLurkin

There are several stories, and they are all different.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mexican-drown-alonso-guillen-texas-flooding-victims-save-harvey-daca-programme-donald-trump-scrap-a7928956.html

My puter is messing up and I can’t post more links on it.

You would have to google it to find the ones that said he was trying to reach a apartment complex...at midnight!


68 posted on 09/05/2017 11:32:17 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfefe.)
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To: techrules2002
“When he was 14”?? - - I thought “Dreamers” were children who were brought here by their parents at a very young age, through no fault of their own; not a 14 year old that came here on his own - - -

The Libs don't want to send them back because Mexico is a "Strange country that they don't know."

But the Libs had no concern of all the kids who came to the Border last your, or two years ago - alone and by themselves - to a Strange country (USA) that they didn't know...and couldn't speak the language.

69 posted on 09/05/2017 11:45:32 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’m not a fool and he’s still dead!


70 posted on 09/05/2017 11:49:50 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

Before God you are a fool


71 posted on 09/05/2017 12:01:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep in order to gain what he cannot lose.

You have NO idea what God could have asked him to do to prove his sincerity and others’ cheap folly all in one go.


72 posted on 09/05/2017 12:03:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: BenLurkin

I’m sorry but this reeks of propaganda, the left can’t stand all the Cajun Navy positive press so they’ve just got to have an Officially Oppressed™ hero “Dreamer.”


73 posted on 09/05/2017 12:04:02 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

God can also advertise.


74 posted on 09/05/2017 12:04:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

The left still hasn’t figured out why Hillary Clinton isn’t 50 points ahead.

The media is a waste of space. I don’t need them and neither does anyone else.

I will take the information from the weather service, that’s it.


75 posted on 09/05/2017 12:08:28 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

For what, to whom in this instance?


76 posted on 09/05/2017 12:14:32 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

You don’t already know?


77 posted on 09/05/2017 12:17:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: bgill

You are probably right. It has the smell of FAKE, or at the very least, a highly contrived fairytale after the fact.


78 posted on 09/05/2017 12:34:41 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Not in the mood for cat and mouse word games, so just lay it out for me please, what are you implying. That will be sufficient, thank you.


79 posted on 09/05/2017 12:34:47 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Tennessee Nana

I saw on FOX News that these DACA-oids have an average age of 22 and an average wage of 17 dollars per hour. So I thought, maybe if they served in the military or some other civil service or even merely renounced their home country citizenship, then we could let these specific, mostly-Americanized people stay. But if they have spent years simply living the lie as adults rather than actively trying to right the ongoing wrong, I will have to rethink that one.


80 posted on 09/05/2017 12:44:15 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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