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Trump, GOP should keep DACA but scrap birthright citizenship
Fox Commentary ^ | Sept 4, 2017 | Liz Peek

Posted on 09/05/2017 7:02:18 AM PDT by 11th_VA

...If Trump does turn the DACA matter over to his wobbly Republican colleagues, he must demand they cut a deal: agree to grant the “Dreamers” permanent status in the U.S. in exchange for abolishing birthright citizenship. That single change could forever reduce the allure of sneaking into the U.S.

Our country and Canada are the lone developed nations that still promise citizenship to anyone born on U.S. or Canadian soil. President Trump says the antiquated policy, drawn from the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, remains “the biggest magnet for illegal immigration” and he is correct. The parents of those Dreamers risked everything to come to the U.S. for jobs and security, but also knowing that any future children would automatically become American citizens.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 115th; anchorbabies; daca; trumpillegals
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I'd go for that deal ...
1 posted on 09/05/2017 7:02:18 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Amen!


2 posted on 09/05/2017 7:05:01 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: 11th_VA

Except that it would take a Constitutional amendment (14th amendment) to change that and opening up that process to the Dems would usurp the rest of Trump’s tenure and open up the Constitution to unreasonable changes.


3 posted on 09/05/2017 7:05:51 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers)
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To: 11th_VA

I’d go for it, too, but I fear it will be the same as $x in tax increases in return for $3x in spending cuts. The tax increases (i.e., permanently staying) always come first, and the spending cuts (i.e., birthright elimination) never materialize.


4 posted on 09/05/2017 7:06:38 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: 11th_VA
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals is just that ......

deferred.

The time for action will be put off for a time, not forever.

That time is now and I hope President Trump says so.

5 posted on 09/05/2017 7:06:46 AM PDT by knarf (thank you)
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Sold. No more anchor babies. I doubt it has a prayer of happening.


6 posted on 09/05/2017 7:06:50 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: 11th_VA

It’s interesting...if the GOP caves on DACA, then we may well see a WHOLESALE PURGE of them in their Primaries - giving the timing 6 months from now. Which then means that they’ll be replaced by conservatives (in most cases)...and we may even put an end to Paul Ryan as Speaker...and similarly in the Senate.

I’m almost ready to let the kids stay, if Trump can accomplish that.


7 posted on 09/05/2017 7:06:57 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: 11th_VA

YES!

That would be an acceptable deal. Trump can test his deal-making skills by trading dreamers for an act that clearly defines birthright citizenship under the 14th amendment as to people who are born to citizens.

No more birth-tourism.


8 posted on 09/05/2017 7:07:24 AM PDT by sevlex
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To: 11th_VA

Yes, let’s divide the baby.

(The baby being truth.)


9 posted on 09/05/2017 7:07:56 AM PDT by fwdude (Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
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Build the wall...

Adequately PROTECT our borders....

Deport ALL illegals...PERIOD


10 posted on 09/05/2017 7:08:25 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Are you sure about that? I don’t think we have always had anchor babies.


11 posted on 09/05/2017 7:09:25 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

That takes care of the "birthright citizenship." All that has to be done is recognize that the child of two Slobbovian citizens is not born naturally subject to the jurisdiction of the United States but, rather, to the Jurisdiction of Slobbovia.

12 posted on 09/05/2017 7:11:29 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: 11th_VA

Great idea. That would stop thousands of Chinese women from coming to the US to give birth. Birthright citizenship was a grave misinterpretation of the 14th amendment giving citizenship to slaves brought here against their will and should never have been applied to children of illegal aliens who willfully broke our laws.


13 posted on 09/05/2017 7:11:40 AM PDT by txrefugee (.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Not necessarily if we had judges that interpreted the Constitution within its historical context.

http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html


14 posted on 09/05/2017 7:13:09 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: 11th_VA

I am of the opinion that a republican meritocracy would be a better form of government. Service brings citizenship.


15 posted on 09/05/2017 7:13:40 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: 11th_VA

All the President is doing is undoing another illegal usurpation of power by Obama.

The power over foreign immigration is delegated solely to Congress through Article 1 section 8 clause 4; “To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization.”   Because it is delegated under Article 1, we know this power is specifically vested in Congress.  Separation of powers dictates that since the power to establish this Rule is rests in Congress, it cannot be exercised by any other branch.  We can see that the executive branch cannot establish the Rule of Naturalization.

The only power the President has over “immigration” is limited to what is established by the Constitution.  The President cannot establish new rules of Naturalization.  He cannot issue waivers to overturn rules of Naturalization that are established in compliance with the Constitution.

The only power the President has over “immigration” is limited to what is established by the Constitution. That is to enforce immigration law passed by Congress. The President cannot establish new rules of Naturalization.  He cannot issue waivers to overturn rules of Naturalization that are established in compliance with the Constitution.


16 posted on 09/05/2017 7:14:23 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: knarf

Yes. Get it done not give them more time.


17 posted on 09/05/2017 7:14:44 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: 11th_VA

“I’d go for that deal ...”

That would actually be a great deal.


18 posted on 09/05/2017 7:14:57 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: 11th_VA

Keep DACA? So we will continue to process the illegal alien “children” who enter this country? DACA doesn’t require them to be brought in by their illegal alien parents. We had a flood of “unaccompanied children” who came across the Southern border just a few years ago. The attraction? DACA. When you reward something, you get more of it.


19 posted on 09/05/2017 7:15:36 AM PDT by kabar
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To: gibsonguy
Are you sure about that? I don’t think we have always had anchor babies.

Yup. But only since it was adopted in 1868.

Amendment XIV

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

20 posted on 09/05/2017 7:16:33 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers)
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