Posted on 09/01/2017 8:39:09 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
Democratic Sen. Bernie Sanders said Thursday that the unprecedented rainfall and resulting flooding from Hurricane Harvey should spark a discussion about climate change.
"I think it is pretty dumb not to ask some hard questions about why more rain is now falling, and has fallen in the Houston area, as I understand it, than any time that people can have measured," Sanders told CNN's Chris Cuomo.
The first priority in responding to Harvey's devastation should be saving lives and ensuring people affected have adequate and safe housing, Sanders said, but he added that the issue of climate change should also be addressed.
Some areas of Texas saw almost 52 inches of rain, and the full scope of destruction from the storm is still unknown.
"Is it related to climate change? Is some of the intensity and the magnitude of this related to Climate change? I think most scientists believe it is," Sanders said. "The right question to be asking is 'what does this mean for the future?'"
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It’s amazing to me how small the death toll has been.
I’m glad, but expected it to be much worse.
Indeed. Clearly a much larger population exists in the Houston area now than back then. I cannot find the rainfall for those two earlier ones but the windspeeds are about the same as Harvey in the 135 mph range. There were large storm surges from the gulf which did much of the damage and flooding for the previous two.
Speaking of “pretty dumb”, the worthless fool should look in a mirror.
Bernie you, Congress, the president and six billion other people can’t do squat about the climate.
The sun, oceans and volcanoes (among other factors) control the climate. People are not a factor.
Bernie, let’s you, Congress, the president and six billion people try an experiment. Steer the next hurricane away from the U.S.
I’ll even do pay per view.
5.56mm
I believe the rain issue was related to the concept that the storm ran into inland pressure, and stalled over the area, delivering rain for a longer than usual period.
The storm did move on, but not until it had dumped a massive amount of water it sucked up from the gulf.
If the weather over the inland area had been different, Harvey would have moved through faster and dropped a lot less water.
Others may shoot down this theory. It’s something I came up with to explain why the massive amount of rainfall?
Hey, uh, Bernie: ever hear of the Great Galveston Hurricane of 1900? You know, this one:
“The Great Galveston Hurricane was a Category 4 storm, with winds of up to 145 mph (233 km/h), which made landfall on September 8, 1900, in Galveston, Texas, in the United States, leaving about 6,000 to 12,000 dead. It remains to the present day the deadliest natural disaster in US history.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Galveston_hurricane
1900, you PUTZ! Way before there were any cars or industrial production to speak of, WAY before anyone could argue about “Climate Change” and other fanciful notions dreamed up by people like you to rob and control the rest of us.
IOW, PUTZ, there were big MF’ing hurricanes way before you were even born, before even St. Algore’s FATHER was born - so that “Climate Change” as an explanation for a big MF’ing hurricane now is just a steaming pile of dogcrap.
You putz!
Then you get some really big Fans to blow the Hurricane away so it doesn’t dump all that water in one location.
You can probably get a good deal on the Fans that the guy on the Beverly Hillbillies was trying to get Jed to buy to pull all the Smog out of Los Angeles.
“If the weather over the inland area had been different, Harvey would have moved through faster and dropped a lot less water.”
Besides, there’s an old Yiddish saying which, translated, says: “If your grandmother had balls, she’d be your grandfather.” “IF” is a very big word.
Sorry to bust you around over this, but I’m just tired of the “Global Warming” and “Climate Change” BS that’s being bandied about everywhere. It is PROVEN to be based on intentionally false (i.e. fraudulent) data, and is being pushed by Leftists who (thankfully) cannot think of a better way to gain control of the West. So I’m not really interested in WHY we had a big hurricane - we did, and that’s all. Puny mankind had not a damned thing to do with it, except being stupid enough to put the 4th largest city, and 40% of our petrochemical industry production, on the edge of a very large body of water known for frequently hosting big MF’ing hurricanes.
End of rant.
The only thing worse, you science-ignorant arm-waving imbecile, is NOT to question the ignorant fraud!!
The reason I mentioned this, is because the record rainfall is just one more excuse for claiming man made global warming is causing weather to get worse.
This record rainfall may be easily explained as I have offered up a very reasoned cause for it.
We can’t just claim they are idiots. We have to explain why their premises are flawed, in each instance.
Check out this one from 1780. It didn’t hit the US but killed maybe 20K and estimated to have 200 mph winds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Hurricane_of_1780
I would question that one...
There was absolutely no way accurately to measure winds back then.
Coulda been lower...
Coulda been higher.
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Sanders: It’s ‘pretty dumb’ not to ask about climate change after Harvey
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Yet, not ONE person asked the salient question: Tell me, sir, which model PREDICTED Harvey and the rainfall.
If none could predict anything 2 weeks/months/years out, does anyone expect anything solid 100yrs+ out??
I'll ask about about climate change after Harvey.
What makes anyone think that Climate Change has anything to do with a category -4 Hurricane with 130 MPH winds hitting the southern USA during Hurricane Season?
Where are the honest, non-manipulated data and facts to document a causal relationship?
If they exist show them.
If not, then just shut up.
Does anyone remember category-5 Hurricane Camille in 1969?
Hurricane Camille made landfall in Mississippi on August 18, 1969 as a Category-5 hurricane with
sustained winds of 175 MPH recorded. Camille is one of only three hurricanes to strike the United
States as a Category 5, other than the Labor Day hurricane in 1935 and Hurricane Andrew in 1992.
True but someone made that estimate. Not sure on what basis though. The death toll is an estimate too but if accurate that storm was the deadliest Atlantic hurricane known. It happened during the American Revolution and a number of British and French ships were lost in the area as well. The basic point is that big hurricanes existed before the “evil” Industrial Revolution which the warmists point to as the beginning of their AGW theory.
“We cant just claim they are idiots. We have to explain why their premises are flawed, in each instance.”
But don’t just point out their mistakes - point out their outright FRAUD, and the underlying goals behind it.
Texas has been repeatedly hit by major hurricanes during the last 150 years, but it has been almost a decade since the Gulf was last hit. Global warming alarmists have been predicting more hurricanes... clearly not the case. However, they will use this as the normal weather event as vindication of their failed theory.
It’s pretty dumb to not realize that HURRICANES HAPPEN, and if you choose to live along the Gulf or Souteastern Coasts you are GOING TO EXPERIENCE ONE sooner or later.
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