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Investigators Repeatedly Warned Navy Ahead of Deadly Collisions
Wall Street Journal ^ | August 25, 2017

Posted on 08/27/2017 12:13:58 PM PDT by NCjim

Congressional investigators and military officials warned repeatedly about overworked sailors, shortened training schedules and budget cuts in the years leading up to two fatal collisions involving U.S. Navy ships, government auditors, lawmakers and Pentagon officials said.

The collisions in June and earlier this week, both Navy guided-missile destroyers operating in the Pacific, left 17 sailors dead or missing.

Three reports in the past two years by the Government Accountability Office, an independent watchdog agency, spell out endemic problems. They found through interviews and Navy studies that U.S. sailors overseas often arrive to their assigned ships without adequate skills and experience. They end up on duty for an average of 108 hours a week, instead of the Navy-standard of 80 hours, the reports found.

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To: gaijin

“the cabin boy the cabin boy
that dirty litter nipper.
he hid some glass
inside his a@@
and circumcised the skipper’


21 posted on 08/27/2017 12:46:43 PM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: NCjim

How much training do you need to look through a pair of binoculars?


22 posted on 08/27/2017 12:48:41 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: NCjim

What did the advisors say about fags, crossdressers, fudgepackers and/or straight lads and lasses playing disorganized gr@b@$$ when they’re supposed to be giving their tasks their undivided attention? Dollars to doggie doo, they never mentioned THAT. It’s a mystery, how all those female military types are turning up pregnant.


23 posted on 08/27/2017 12:52:15 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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To: NCjim
we're not talking WW2 here with attacks everyday...

we're talking peacetime Navy crashing into other ships that were carrying cargo...

My God, were not the sailors in WW2 tested in constant lookout and battle with enemies, yet somehow our Navy was superb...

24 posted on 08/27/2017 12:53:37 PM PDT by cherry
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To: PIF; NCjim; doorgunner69; Kozy; Bonemaker; Grimmy; samadams2000; petitfour; AmusedBystander

I can see how that would be a thing. But no alarms going off ship wide when a vessel is being rapidly approached?

A guy who’s article I sometimes read had this to say:

“I’ve been OOD in and out of Yokosuka—USS REEVES (CG-24); about the same displacement—a hundred times; during all times of day, night, adverse weather, and wee hours. In fact, coming into Yokosuka, 4 am in that part of the entry lanes is quite common, so we’d be tied up by the morning’s work day and shipyard workers could get busy.

This sh*t is easy to avoid, even in very heavy choke-point shipping traffic in and out. Surface radar easily has a 30k ton container ship painted 20-30 miles out, and you can see them with your own eyeballs 10-12 miles out. Once you do a minute of scope head plotting with the grease pencil, you can see how close you’ll come to each other if both vessels maintain course and speed. If inside of 10,000 yards (5 nautical miles), all it takes is a 2-5 degree course change, early, to port or starboard, to keep him outside of that envelope.

And, every set of Standing Orders on US Navy ships typically demands that if for some reason it’s unavoidable to keep another vessel outside of 10k yards, you are to notify the Captain immediately.”

https://freetheanimal.com/2017/06/fitzgerald-incident-yokosuka.html


25 posted on 08/27/2017 12:53:59 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: grania

I’m sure that the promotion of lesser qualified personal on the grounds of their “diversity” is a huge problem..


26 posted on 08/27/2017 12:57:14 PM PDT by cherry
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To: major-pelham

“Smells like BS to me - obvi job one is not to crash.”

Agreed.


27 posted on 08/27/2017 12:58:30 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: cherry

Ping to: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3581024/posts?page=25#25


28 posted on 08/27/2017 12:59:01 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: NCjim

Aren’t the radars working? I don’t buy into overworked sailors as an excuse. There is no excuse unless the equipment is faulty.


29 posted on 08/27/2017 12:59:22 PM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Begs the questions do we have Trannies doing their nails at the helm, tini latino woman that can’t see over the bow or transom? What is the problem?


30 posted on 08/27/2017 12:59:51 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

A crew rots from the head down.

If the ship’s officers are selected because of “political reliability” then that ship is not going to have any leadership ensuring that SOPs are enforced or that anyone is actually doing their jobs.

But, it is obvious that there are some flag rank wearers in the Navy that are in desperate need of being put against a wall and shot for the damage they’ve allowed to be done.


31 posted on 08/27/2017 1:00:38 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy
absolutely...we have an officer core of mamby pamby boys who don't know how to really do things...

of course, they'll stay in for 20 because who else will pay them steady wages, fat benefits,many weeks of vacation, and an obscene pension....

and look at all the pretty pins they can put on their shirts...

remember all the purging that took place during the bama debacle?...there you go...

32 posted on 08/27/2017 1:02:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: samadams2000

I’m hoping Richard will weigh in again since the reports of more accidents.

He’s pretty Libertarian with with a fiscal (and sometimes social) conservative bent.

He’s the first person I ever read outside of FreeRepublic who said, “Trump is going to win and here’s why” and he was dead on.

(Other people may have written the same, but he’s the first person I came across out in the world outside conservatism.)

He’s usually a food/excerise/paleo-keotard wars writer but I enjoy him when he veers off topic.


33 posted on 08/27/2017 1:03:46 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: AmusedBystander
How much training do you need to look through a pair of binoculars?

Have you ever worked an 80 hr shift? How about 108 hr shift?

34 posted on 08/27/2017 1:05:16 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: NCjim

35 posted on 08/27/2017 1:06:27 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Drango

Ping to opinion of someone who’s been there: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3581024/posts?page=25#25


36 posted on 08/27/2017 1:06:59 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: gaijin
Maternity uniforms. Isn't that nice..?


37 posted on 08/27/2017 1:08:04 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

38 posted on 08/27/2017 1:09:19 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

39 posted on 08/27/2017 1:10:18 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Grimmy

You are dead on right. It’s disturbing. I still have two kids in the navy. My daughter, who specializes in the gps programs, is great at her job. She’s a dedicated sailor who loves her job and her country but was told recently that she’d never get far because she doesn’t play POLITICS well enough.


40 posted on 08/27/2017 1:13:01 PM PDT by mpackard (Read my Lip-Stick)
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