Posted on 08/22/2017 4:27:36 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
Edited on 08/22/2017 5:59:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
LAS VEGAS (AP) - A federal jury in Las Vegas has refused to convict four accused gunmen in a 2014 standoff with federal authorities near the Nevada ranch of anti-government figure Cliven Bundy.
In a verdict that stunned Bundy supporters, the jury on Tuesday acquitted Ricky Lovelien and Steven Stewart of all 10 charges against them.
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As the skeletons come out of the closets and the rats leave the ship there will be a mad rush to be the one getting an immunity deal.
As the skeletons come out of the closets and the rats leave the ship there will be a mad rush to be the one getting an immunity deal.
I take it you hold the view that the 2nd Amendment should be subject to "reasonable" limitations such as who, where and when an American can exercise his right government sanctioned privilege to bear arms.
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>> “ranch standoff (BREAKING NEWS!!!), vette6387 wrote:
“There is no reason whatsoever for the fed govt to own these lands. Let the people who use them have them!”
All the Western States are “owned” largely by the Fed Gov...” <<
But that does not include surface use or water rights!
Those were already 100% in private ownership when the treaty was signed.
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“Since the real problem was a political one, that’s where our efforts should be focused, not on threatening LEOs.”
Do you understand that the armed BLM started the confrontation showing up in their MRAPs killing Bundys cattle? The “cowboys” here were the BLM, and they are damned lucky they didn’t end up in body bags as a result of their behavior. In the end, then knew they were going to get dead if they fired a single shot in the direction of the citizens, so they left.
I think he meant the Federal Government Cattle Rustlers.
A long time ago, BLM agents weren’t armed, and conducted business professionally. They looked and acted like Hank the county agricultural agent. Look at the photos of that standoff with the Bundy family.
Theses post-9/11 weaponized BLMs showed up in swat gear, desert tan BDUs, AR-15s, army helmets, and more than a few were sporting tacticool “wish is was a special forces guy” beards and oakleys.
They showed up looking like they were prowling for a fight. They got the response they deserved. They were going for intimidation and they ran into people who stood tall. This is a good day.
You take it wrong.
Go play with your straw man somewhere else.
“All the Western States are “owned” largely by the Fed Gov...” <<
But that does not include surface use or water rights!
Those were already 100% in private ownership when the treaty was signed.”
The problem is the BLM doesn’t seem to understand any of what you say. Western ranchers are up to their eyeballs with the BLM, and I will bet that some of them are going to die if they don’t put away their guns, or better still, have them taken away.
Yes it has happened to others, but this time Americans said “enough”. The federal government denied him due process and started rounding up and killing his cattle. These are not your ordinary people. These are people who have waked out a living in God Awful conditions for generation.
I get it that you can’t understand this, but these guys winning is a serious win for America
I know, right? Amazed.
“What was done is no different than BLM protesting without a permit (which I too find to be unconstitutional)”
Protesting doesn’t require a permit sport. Maybe you can show us in the constitution where a permit is required for speech. Be careful with that... soon we will be the ones needing to protest. I do not agree that without a permit you must not protest.
” Should fee hikes just result in armed standoffs from now on?”
Review Boston Tea Party.
I heartily agree that the "every department gets its own heavily-armed police" thing is insane. But that's beside the point, I think.
Whether and to what degree the feds were armed doesn't really change the question of whether the Bundys should have been armed in this case. I personally think it was a bad decision on their part.
30,000 militia, and tons of oathkeepers, along with quite a few elected reps from the west all agreed with the action that was taken that day.
If you would take the time to read and educate yourself perhaps you would understand.
If you don't care about the constitution, then you might be a troll.
Whoa you better back up , The BLM tried to sell some of the cattle though local sales but no sale barn would take them
And the desert tortoise too. Must be endangered, yeah, that’s the ticket.
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