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To: 11th_VA

The real issue for today, which the leftist writer will not mention, is where is the Islamic Martin Luther. Because that religion is still burning people at the stake and is screaming for reform.
I was shocked by the silence, intellectually fraudulent.


10 posted on 08/20/2017 5:01:55 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: Titus-Maximus

I have argued differently.

Quietly, in cities in Asia, Africa, and the Mid East, there has been tremendous, even explosive growth and modernization. The urban dwellers have embraced this change and have adapted their lives and Islam to make it all fit together.

There was no Martin Luther. There was no Pope, no Vatican.

Along came Usama bin Laden who took up the task of Islamic counter reformation. He did not seek a new direction, he sought to destroy all the modernization, the intolerable change, the adaptation. Usama bin Ladin sought followers to force reversion to a fundamentalist Islam that had not existed for many years outside the primitive areas of Saudi Arabia.

He found followers. They go by Al Qaeda, Muslim Brother Hood and Daish. The counter reformation was not successful, even by force of conquering arms. The mass of modernized, evolved Islam rejected the counter reformation. .


13 posted on 08/20/2017 5:26:51 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Titus-Maximus
Back to Basics. Back to the Primitive Church Ummah. Sola Koran Scriptura. Tear down the statues and icons and all that polytheistic idolatry. Soli Allah Gloria.

What we don't realize is that, from their perspective, the radical Islamists *are* the Reformation.

20 posted on 08/20/2017 9:27:30 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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