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Five centuries on, Martin Luther should be feted as hero of liberty and free speech
Theguardian.commartinluther ^ | 18 March 2017 | Pete Stanford

Posted on 08/19/2017 9:38:22 PM PDT by 11th_VA

The story of the German reformer who challenged the Catholic church has resonance today

n the English version of the Reformation, Martin Luther’s role amounts to little more than noises off. First, he attracted the hostility of Henry VIII, aided and abetted by Thomas More, as they flung barbs at “this venomous serpent” challenging the Catholic church’s stranglehold over Europe. Then, just over a decade later, the king exploited the breach in Rome’s defences that Luther had created to launch a national church.

But Henry was always keen to stress that he was no Lutheran, and the German reformer’s new take on Christianity did not survive intact when crossing the Channel. So the celebrations this year of the 500th anniversary of Luther issuing his 95 theses – the key text in his onslaught against the pope’s abuse of power and scripture – is set to largely pass us by.

The “joint fest for Jesus Christ”, organised by the Lutheran World Federation and the Vatican, is a remarkable act of togetherness after half a millennium of enmity and bloodshed. It will be getting into gear this Easter across continental Europe, but there is no party happening here. Which is mighty unfair on Luther.

When the new Protestantism – a word invented by Luther’s enemies at the Diet of Speyer in 1529 – did arrive on these shores once Henry had shut out Rome, it might not have been specifically Lutheran, but it would not have existed at all had it not been for Luther. Once he had argued that you could worship God by following the scriptures not the pope, others such as Zwingli and Calvin followed in his wake, setting up their own churches as Protestantism quickly fragmented.

We live today in secular, sceptical, scientific times, when religion itself is regularly branded irrelevant. So Luther, if considered at all, tends to be dismissed as dour, distant and two-dimensional, better suited to the dusty pages of history books than the 21st century. So much so that he is often confused with Martin Luther King, whose continuing importance is much more readily understood.

Yet as one of the makers of modern Europe, and a populist who rose to prominence on a wave of anti-establishment discontent among those who felt themselves shut out and forgotten (sound familiar?), his story has never had a more immediate resonance.

In his native Germany, at least, they still appreciate that. Some 30% of the population remains Lutheran, including the chancellor, Angela Merkel, daughter of a Lutheran pastor. Recently a Playmobil model of the Augustinian friar, clutching his quill pen and Bible, became the fastest-selling toy its makers have ever put on the market there, with 34,000 sold during its first 72 hours on the shelf.

A case of celebrating a local hero? That is part of it, but it is too narrow. Luther’s contemporary relevance for all of us lies in understanding how and why an obscure monk from a backwoods university, light years away from the corridors of power in Renaissance Rome, orchestrated a revolution so powerful that it brought a hitherto all-powerful Catholicism to its knees.

It certainly was not down to the originality of his theological arguments. Not a single one was new. All had been aired before, some by saints, many by those branded heretics by Rome for their trouble, their lives snuffed out on pyres in public squares as casually as the candles on its gilded altars.

What Luther did in the 95 theses – which, incidentally, were sent to his local archbishop, not nailed to a door, a fanciful exaggeration put about by his followers after his death – was to tap into a deep vein of alienation among the poor in a fragmented Germany. They were disillusioned not only with the excesses and corruption of their pope and church, but also with their own local rulers in the jigsaw of states that made up their country.

Luther struck a chord with a congregation that felt exploited and ignored: on the one hand, fleeced to pay for lavish basilicas in Rome by the sale of worthless pieces of parchment known as indulgences that “guaranteed” a berth in heaven for loved ones (or themselves); and on the other, in the secular world, seeing the age-old ways on which their livelihoods depended overturned by the rise of a money economy.

The 95 theses – and much of what Luther subsequently said in public as his message spread across the continent, right up to his excommunication in 1521 – were the work of a classic disrupter who, in today’s terms, wanted to drain the “Vatican swamp”.

Fluent in the language of the street, the undeniably charismatic Luther wrote most of his best-known and most inflammatory texts not in church Latin but in German, going on to produce in 1522 the first translation of the New Testament into everyday German, and in 1534 a translation of the whole Bible.

Those in the pews no longer had to rely on the word of priests and bishops instead of the word of God. He realised the force of appealing over the head of “experts” long before Michael Gove hit upon it in the Brexit push.

And in working with the owners of newfangled printing presses, he was among the first to spot the potential of what was the social media of its day as an alternative means of spreading his new anti-establishment gospel. Pamphlets of edited versions of his tracts spread like ripples through Germany, then Europe, Rome and even England. In an age of widespread illiteracy, he made sure he engaged those who could not read by including illustrations, using crude, often satirical woodcuts from the studio of his close friend and fellow Wittenberger, Lucas Cranach the Elder.

So when he stood before the Holy Roman Emperor and the princes and prelates of Germany at the Diet of Worms in 1521, defending his writings on pain of death, Luther had crowds outside on the streets rallying to his defence, stirred up by leaflets and posters saturating the town.

Much as they wanted to be rid of “this petty monk”, as pope Adrian VI labelled him, the establishment could not hand him over to his fate for fear of igniting an uprising. So Luther, unlike those earlier would-be reformers, lived to put his theories into practice.

All those who court popular support, though, inevitably one day lose it. For Luther, that moment came in 1525, when the long-brewing unhappiness among Germany’s poor boiled over in the Peasants’ War. Luther was forced to choose sides, and threw his lot in with thode princes who had embraced his Protestantism (and with some who hadn’t).

This was not a matter of self-preservation. His doctrine of the “two kingdoms” – leaving to the state earthly matters, and to the church those spiritual pursuits that were Luther’s lifeblood – was sincerely held, but his application of it was taken as a cruel betrayal by many among the rebels who had placed their hopes in him as their saviour.

Yet the consequences of Luther’s rebellion were not confined to a particular period, to Germany, or even to organised religion. His essential message was that, at the end of his or her life, each believer stood naked before God, awaiting eternal judgment, with only the Bible and their faith to protect them. The “good works” that Catholicism encouraged – earning brownie points by going to mass, making pilgrimages, praying to relics and contributing to the church coffers – were irrelevant in salvation.

He was thus challenging the entire late medieval way of doing things and the result was strikingly modern. For Luther championed conscience, informed by reading the scriptures, over the dictates of church rules and regulations. Read scripture and make your own mind up. This, in its turn, opened the door in the 17th and 18th centuries to Enlightenment notions of human liberty, free speech and even human rights, all of which today shape Europe. Our ability to read the word of God and reject it out of hand comes from Luther – an outcome he could not have foreseen and which would surely horrify him.

But if that sounds too abstract, there is one final aspect of Martin Luther that gives him a relevance and a three-dimensional appeal. For sheer, selfless courage, he is impossible to outdo. He may now be recalled, if at all, as a jowly friar from history, but for a thousand years before Luther came along, the Catholic church had been one of the great powers on earth, so powerful it even fixed the calendar the world still uses, taking as its pivot the birth of Jesus Christ. Until Martin Luther.

He had the courage to take on a monolithic church, in the full expectation that it would cost him his life, but he did it nonetheless, confronting the might of the first truly universal religion, in person and often alone, with an extraordinary passion, intensity and energy. And, most remarkable of all, not only did Luther survive, he triumphed, and we are all better off because of him.

What’s not to celebrate?


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To: metmom

Muslims do not speak publicly against it and that is the problem.

Also the Pew polls show strong support for Sharia, definitely higher in the Islamic nations with least western influence.


41 posted on 08/20/2017 2:33:38 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: ealgeone

Catholics have no need for a crazed possessed 16th Century German monk.


42 posted on 08/20/2017 2:40:53 PM PDT by The Cuban (again Freaking French illegal immigrabta,)
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To: The Cuban; Religion Moderator

Catholics have no need for a crazed possessed 16th Century German monk.

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Now THIS I don’t know is against the rules or not, but this kind of language and the profanity from the poster all over this thread really is quite distressing.


44 posted on 08/20/2017 3:06:18 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

He didn’t have delusion ba of the demonic? By his very own admissions he did. So yes I agree very distressing.


45 posted on 08/20/2017 3:07:41 PM PDT by The Cuban (again Freaking French illegal immigrabta,)
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To: The Cuban

He didn’t have delusion ba of the demonic? By his very own admissions he did. So yes I agree very distressing.

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My my, what an angry reply from the man who spewed profanity at me when I dared to deliver him a mild challenge.

You will forgive me if derisive laughter is my only response to the tantrum-throwing you are doing on this thread.

Also, cite your sources, in context.


46 posted on 08/20/2017 3:11:05 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: daniel1212

I would be a real jerk if I didn’t respond to your very good and informative post.

Was referring to the modern state of the world and how Luther started a long slide into the Godlessness that exists today.

When there is no central authority and everyone can set up shop for themselves, there is anarchy and eventually extinction.

What Luther started might have been an understandable reaction to abuses at the time, what he has wrought has a very real and negative impact on our current condition.

Europe is overrun and the Americas are under siege from the mozulm horde, the Church founded by Jesus has been weakened and has never recovered from the initial assault.


47 posted on 08/20/2017 4:57:52 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He was a married RC priest?


48 posted on 08/20/2017 5:41:34 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea ((I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders))
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To: bert
Along came Usama bin Laden who took up the task of Islamic counter reformation. He did not seek a new direction, he sought to destroy all the modernization, the intolerable change, the adaptation. Usama bin Ladin sought followers to force reversion to a fundamentalist Islam that had not existed for many years outside the primitive areas of Saudi Arabia.

Along came Barack Hussein Obama who took up the task of Islamic counter reformation in America. He is even more evil than Usama bin Laden and his spawns, including ISIS.

49 posted on 08/20/2017 5:53:20 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea ((I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders))
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To: The Cuban
Catholics have no need for a crazed possessed 16th Century German monk.

Ya'll just stick with the crazy popes ya'll have.

50 posted on 08/20/2017 6:08:02 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Rome2000
Was referring to the modern state of the world and how Luther started a long slide into the Godlessness that exists today. When there is no central authority and everyone can set up shop for themselves, there is anarchy and eventually extinction.

But which as broadbrush is contrary to history and wrongly faults the Reformation, for the real problem was not dissent, nor is the solution medieval Rome, but Scripture not being supreme and leadership - and central leadership should be a goal, despite how Rome has ruined that concept - that is contrary to that of the NT church, or at least falls far from it.

The reality is that central authority can either be good or do much evil, and the latter is the case when that central authority presumes autocratic supreme power, even in which Scripture is only what the power says it is and means, which is what developed in Catholicism, and which thus required dissent based upon the only transcendent wholly inspired substantive body of Divine Revelation.

Likewise in Judaism, those who actually were in the seat of Moses presumed dissent from them could not be valid, rejecting an itinerant preacher in the wilderness, and thus the Christ, and preachers of Him, who reproved those who sat in Moses' seat, and established their claims Scriptural substantiation in word and in power.

And both men and writings of God were discerned and established as being so long before a church of Rome presumed it was essential for this.

Yet as cults manifest, autocratic supreme leadership can result in the greatest degree of unity, but which manner of unity is not Scriptural and is inferior to that which is the result of Scriptural attestation.

Thus while comprehensive doctrinal unity was ever a goal not realized, the basic unity of the early church was under leadership which looked to Scripture as supreme, and with the veracity of their preaching being subject to testing by Scripture (and not vice versa), and with spiritual Scriptural credentials the likes of what are lacking today. (2Cor. 6:4-10)

Thus although we should have central authority, that itself is not the answer, while under both the Catholic model of supreme authority ("The Church") and the evangelical one you have both unity and disunity.

Fo unless the authority is extremity cultic, what the respective supreme authorities say and mean can be subject to disagreement, as abundantly in seen in Catholicism. Meanwhile, despite denominational divisions, those who most strong hold to the most fundamental distinctive of the Reformation, that of the authority of Scripture as literally being the word of God, yet testify to being more unified in basic truths than those Rome counts and treats as members in life and in death. Thus for a long time such have been treated as enemies by both liberals and Catholics.

In addition, the very founding of America and its unity was much a result of the basic unity. For That believers of the Bible can live in overall harmony is testified to in the early days of the American experiment the famous French Catholic political thinker and historian, Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859) best known for his two volume, "Democracy in America") attested,

Upon my arrival in the United States, the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I stayed there, the more did I perceive the great political consequences resulting from this state of things, to which I was unaccustomed. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom pursuing courses diametrically opposed to each other; but in America I found that they were intimately united, and that they reigned in common over the same country. <

The sects that exist in the United States are innumerable. They all differ in respect to the worship which is due to the Creator; but they all agree in respect to the duties which are due from man to man. Each sect adores the Deity in its own peculiar manner, but all sects preach the same moral law in the name of God...Moreover, all the sects of the United States are comprised within the great unity of Christianity, and Christian morality is everywhere the same...

n the United States the sovereign authority is religious, and consequently hypocrisy must be common; but there is no country in the whole world in which the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America, and there can be no greater proof of its utility, and of its conformity to human nature, than that its influence is most powerfully felt over the most enlightened and free nation of the earth...

The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other; and with them this conviction does not spring from that barren traditionary faith which seems to vegetate in the soul rather than to live... Thus religious zeal is perpetually warmed in the United States by the fires of patriotism. These men do not act exclusively from a consideration of a future life; eternity is only one motive of their devotion to the cause. If you converse with these missionaries of Christian civilization, you will be surprised to hear them speak so often of the goods of this world, and to meet a politician where you expected to find a priest. (Democracy in America, [New York: A. S. Barnes & Co., 1851), pp. 331, 332, 335, 336-7, 337; http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/DETOC/religion/ch1_17.htm)

And Benjamin Franklin also advertised,

And the Divine Being seems to have manifested His approbation of the mutual forbearance and kindness by which the different sects treat each other, and by the remarkable prosperity with which He has been please to favor the whole country. (Benjamin Franklin, "Information to those who would Remove to America" In Franklin, Benjamin. The Bagatelles from Passy. Ed. Lopez, Claude A. New York: Eakins Press. 1967; http://mith.umd.edu//eada/html/display.php?docs=franklin_bagatelle4.xml. Also, John Gould Curtis, American history told by contemporaries .... Volume 3, p. 26)

Thus unity under autocratic supreme leadership is not Scriptural and is a problem, and under such when leadership goes South (or is absent) then so do those who are dependent on it (as today and see below). And such autocratic supreme leadership of men requires dissent based upon Scripture as supreme, and under which profound efficacious unity can be realized, despite tribal denominational divisions.

However, a low view and lack of reverence of Scripture will result in anarchy and then dictatorial autocratic supreme leadership, which what the devil is working towards today in the post-Christian USA.

Thus what is needed is holding Scripture as supreme and leadership which reflect that, both of which is lacking today, thus believers must pray and preach better.

Europe is overrun and the Americas are under siege from the mozulm horde, the Church founded by Jesus has been weakened and has never recovered from the initial assault.

Rome saw worse problems before the Reformation:

Cardinal Bellarmine:

 "Some years before the rise of the Lutheran and Calvinistic heresy, according to the testimony of those who were then alive, there was almost an entire abandonment of equity in ecclesiastical judgments; in morals, no discipline; in sacred literature, no erudition; in divine things, no reverence; religion was almost extinct. (Concio XXVIII. Opp. Vi. 296- Colon 1617, in “A History of the Articles of Religion,” by Charles Hardwick, Cp. 1, p. 10,)

 • The Avignon Papacy (1309-76) relocated the throne to France and was followed by the Western Schism (1378-1417), with three rival popes excommunicating each other and their sees. Referring to the schism of the 14th and 15th centuries, Cardinal Ratzinger observed,

"For nearly half a century, the Church was split into two or three obediences that excommunicated one another, so that every Catholic lived under excommunication by one pope or another, and, in the last analysis, no one could say with certainty which of the contenders had right on his side. The Church no longer offered certainty of salvation; she had become questionable in her whole objective form--the true Church, the true pledge of salvation, had to be sought outside the institution.

"It is against this background of a profoundly shaken ecclesial consciousness that we are to understand that Luther, in the conflict between his search for salvation and the tradition of the Church, ultimately came to experience the Church, not as the guarantor, but as the adversary of salvation. (Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, head of the Sacred Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith for the Church of Rome, “Principles of Catholic Theology,” trans. by Sister Mary Frances McCarthy, S.N.D. (San Francisco: Ignatius, 1989) p.196). http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2012/06/13/whos-in-charge-here-the-illusions-of-church-infallibility/)

• Joseph Lortz, German Roman Catholic theologian:

“When Luther asserted that the pope of Rome was not the true successor of Saint Peter and that the Church could do without the Papacy, in his mind and in their essence these were new doctrines, but the distinctive element in them was not new and thus they struck a sympathetic resonance in the minds of many. Long before the Reformation itself, the unity of the Christian Church in the West had been severely undermined.” ("The Reformation: A Problem for Today” (Maryland: The Newman Press, 1964), “The Causes of the Reformation," pp. 35-37; .

51 posted on 08/20/2017 6:52:18 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: 11th_VA
It certainly was not down to the originality of his theological arguments. Not a single one was new. All had been aired before, some by saints, many by those branded heretics by Rome for their trouble, their lives snuffed out on pyres in public squares as casually as the candles on its gilded altars.

What Luther and the other Reformers sought to do was actually reforming or returning the organized church back to its original Scriptural basis.

• Jaroslav Pelikan (Lutheran, later Eastern Orhodox), The Riddle of Roman Catholicism (New York: Abingdon Press, 1959), also found:

    "Recent research on the Reformation entitles us to sharpen it and say that the Reformation began because the reformers were too catholic in the midst of a church that had forgotten its catholicity..." 

    “The reformers were catholic because they were spokesmen for an evangelical tradition in medieval catholicism, what Luther called "the succession of the faithful." The fountainhead of that tradition was Augustine (d. 430). His complex and far-reaching system of thought incorporated the catholic ideal of identity plus universality, and by its emphasis upon sin and grace it became the ancestor of Reformation theology. … All the reformers relied heavily upon Augustine. They pitted his evangelical theology against the authority of later church fathers and scholastics, and they used him to prove that they were not introducing novelties into the church, but defending the true faith of the church.”

    “...To prepare books like the Magdeburg Centuries they combed the libraries and came up with a remarkable catalogue of protesting catholics and evangelical catholics, all to lend support to the insistence that the Protestant position was, in the best sense, a catholic position.

    Additional support for this insistence comes from the attitude of the reformers toward the creeds and dogmas of the ancient catholic church. The reformers retained and cherished the doctrine of the Trinity and the doctrine of the two natures in Christ which had developed in the first five centuries of the church….” 

    “If we keep in mind how variegated medieval catholicism was, the legitimacy of the reformers' claim to catholicity becomes clear. (Pelikan, pp. 46-47)

    "Substantiation for this understanding of the gospel came principally from the Scriptures, but whenever they could, the reformers also quoted the fathers of the catholic church. There was more to quote than their Roman opponents found comfortable." (Pelikan 48-49). More Here


52 posted on 08/20/2017 7:16:06 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: metmom

I am an Evangelical Christian, having been raised Catholic and spending 18 years with the Episcopal Church before they went weird. I know some Assemblies of God missionaries who are working in Islamic countries, one in Jordan and one in Mali. They must not only be concerned with their own safety but with the safety of their converts for conversion means a possible death sentence. Additionally, I know a missionary family who used to belong to my church who are working in Berlin which, right now, posed its own set of concerns.


53 posted on 08/20/2017 7:22:45 PM PDT by JayVee (Joseph)
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To: Luircin
I have a bad feeling about this thread. We already have someone who played the Hitler card. This could get both funny and ugly.

I have a feeling it will be BOTH...plus educational for those who need to learn some facts.

54 posted on 08/20/2017 7:26:17 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: The Cuban; ealgeone

Of course you have NOTHING with which to prove your slanderous and ignorant assertions against Luther. So, no, there is a LOT to denying it.


55 posted on 08/20/2017 7:42:20 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: JayVee

Yes, the safety of their converts is a concern of them as well.

When they relate to us about those who get saved, they use code names for them. They do not use their real names.


56 posted on 08/20/2017 7:45:58 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: 11th_VA

NOT!


57 posted on 08/20/2017 7:57:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
NOT!

Riiiight...because the Roman Catholic church is such a bastion of liberty and free speech?!

58 posted on 08/20/2017 7:59:30 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: Salvation

NOT!

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Truly, an expertly thought out rebuttal.

What is this, the 90s?


59 posted on 08/20/2017 8:00:22 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: The Cuban

Stop posting in the Religion Forum until you familiarize yourself with the guidelines posted on my profile page which you can access by clicking on my name at the bottom of this post.

I have had to remove several of your posts because they did not respect the guidelines.


60 posted on 08/21/2017 1:44:48 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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