“I’ve heard American Negroes saying things like, “I love all black people, and I hate all white people.” (Not kidding; I really heard that.) Where does American Constitutional Conservatism come down on that?
Since 99.999999999999999999999999999999% of American Negroes are white-hating racists, are we just writing them off?
We whites are the only race that is not allowed to admire and prefer itself. How is that likely to turn out?”
Apples and oranges: what some black people think about white people vs. what white people think about white people are two different things; they’re not joined at the hip, so the latter can’t be legitimately predicated on the former.
I’m a Native Californian; stuck it out here for over 50 years, and I’ve got friends who’re black; decent people who couldn’t give a fig for what color you are. All that matters to them are your character and whether you’re stayin’ for grub, ‘cuz they fixin ta throw down.
Got a couple of veterans who rent an apartment from me; good guys outta Nawlins; they got no use for AntiFa, and BLM is a stain on the black community so far as they’re concerned.
Your 99.9999999...ad nauseum...% figure is absurdly overinflated. I suspect there’s some degree of that “gotta be a friend to make a friend” thing that’s artificially skewing your results, but you come across as rational, and decently civilized, so...I dunno why your perceptions are so lopsided.
If you don’t know any black people who don’t hate white people, you’re talkin to black folks in the wrong zip code. I know places like that; neighborhoods within 30mi of my place where I could go find racially-based animosity. But I could go to a different neighborhood and just as easily get chased out by white punks, too. One gang hates me because I’m white, the other gang hates me because I’m not in their gang. Comes down to tribal hatred one way or the other.
And that was the focus of a decent bit of writing over at The Federalist just a couple days ago: white people have, historically, been the only ones who don’t regard themselves as a tribe.
“A big part of the reason white Americans have been willing to go along with policies that are prejudicial on their face, such as affirmative action, is that they do not view themselves as a tribe. Given the inequality of resources favoring whites in our society, it is a good thing that white people view themselves as the ones without an accent. Should that change, white privilege (whatever one views that to be) will not be eviscerated—it will be entrenched.”
Source: http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/23/how-anti-white-rhetoric-is-fueling-white-nationalism/
White people in America have long behaved as the ones most comfortable in their own skins; the only “un-tribe” among all the “tribes” in the land (native, immigrant, or religious); others are “minorities,” we’re — wallpaper. Scenery. The normal people. The regular crowd. Joe Average. We don’t stick out, and we don’t feel any psychological need to stick out. White people in America don’t feel a NEED to preen for the cameras and admire their whiteness; we’re comfortable being white without the psychopathy of having to collect accolades for it. White people are not, generally speaking, prone to racial Narcissism; we’re like extras in Hollywood: we’ll be in the film, but we’re not gnashing our teeth over not being on the red carpet on premier night.
And THAT stirs up the racial envy in some folks.
LOTTA other people spent a LONG time trying to “get up to” where we are. They’ve even used government to game the system to try and make it a shorter climb. But we white people haven’t done anything extraordinary to be here. We get up, get dressed, and get on about the business and busyness of life every day. We live routine lives, by and large, but here we are, and we’ve been here all along.
What government isn’t telling anyone, nor the media, either; and what even many white folks don’t know is this: that whole “up here where the white folks are” thing is a psychological illusion. ANYONE from ANYWHERE can — as easily as falling off a log — live his life “up here where the white folks are” if he’ll only get his education, get through school, get to work and be consistently industrious about it. And a hard-working, bright, studious black man can even get a few miles further down the road than the white boys that grew up around his hometown. Where does the world think we get people like Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, anyway?
White people aren’t inherently better people, we’ve just consistently done whatever came to hand to be better tomorrow than yesterday, and haven’t let our own whiteness influence our thinking as to how hard or easy that was. At least generally. I guess some whites get obsessed with being white, but the vast majority of whites generally don’t give it much thought.
I can remember the first black kid I met at school. He was in my brother’s class, and they became friends. Never entered my thinking that school, or college, or future working life would be any bit more difficult for him than for me and my brother. If you’d have told me way back then that he’d have a tougher row to how because he was black, I’d have looked at you like you had gummy worms hangin out your nose, and said you were outta your ever lovin mind.
And — except for media, and government doing all they could to try and tell me I was wrong — I was right. I’m still right. The highly successful black men, and women in this world PROVE I’m right, because the reason they “made it” is that they’re as comfortable in their own black skins as I am in my own white skin. They consciously think as infrequently about themselves being black as I infrequently think about myself being white. And that’s not a thing of being ashamed of one’s race; shame makes you MORE self-conscious, not less. No, it’s a genuine, healthy self-confidence is what that trait is. You show me someone who’s all goin on and on about race this and race that and I’ll show you someone who’s self-conscious about their own color and uneasy in their own skin.
Conservatism really doesn’t care what color anyone is. And that is why it is SO galling to have bona fide white supremacists lumped in with us Conservatives. Racial supremacism just isn’t in the genetic code of American Constitutional Conservatism. It’s the left that’s obsessed with race, not Conservatives. But the left thinks they can use the evident white supremacism of some as a poison to taint all of Conservatism, and if Conservatives don’t push back, and work overtime to identify bona fide supremacists and weed ‘em out; well, the left might enjoy a long, strong run of success.
Thank you for the thoughtful post.
“Apples and oranges: what some black people think about white people vs. what white people think about white people are two different things; they’re not joined at the hip, so the latter can’t be legitimately predicated on the former.”
Not following you there, sorry. My experience has taught me that black people believe some pretty screwy things about white people and what it’s like to be white, so you’re right that they are two different things. I just don’t see what that demonstrates.
“I’ve got friends who’re black; decent people who couldn’t give a fig for what color you are. All that matters to them are your character and whether you’re stayin’ for grub, ‘cuz they fixin ta throw down.”
Only The Shadow knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men. Maybe things are exactly as you say; I don’t know any of you.
“Your 99.9999999...ad nauseum...% figure is absurdly overinflated.”
I was engaging in hyperbole. I would estimate the actual figure at 99.90%.
“I suspect there’s some degree of that “gotta be a friend to make a friend” thing that’s artificially skewing your results”
I am not going to do the “I’m Not a Racist” truffle shuffle. Never again.
“but you come across as rational, and decently civilized, so...I dunno why your perceptions are so lopsided.”
If I’m rational, perhaps they’re not as lopsided as they appear to you.
“If you don’t know any black people who don’t hate white people, you’re talking to black folks in the wrong zip code.”
I think there are a few, but I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that I have been mistaken about even those few. Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Walter Williams, some of the men I knew in the Navy…and…no, since I was last associated with the military, I haven’t met any blacks who cared to have white people as friends. (In general; not just me.)
“But I could go to a different neighborhood and just as easily get chased out by white punks, too. One gang hates me because I’m white, the other gang hates me because I’m not in their gang. Comes down to tribal hatred one way or the other.”
Not really. This is apples and oranges, too. White-on-white gangster aggression is not comparable to racial hatred.
“And that was the focus of a decent bit of writing over at The Federalist just a couple days ago: white people have, historically, been the only ones who don’t regard themselves as a tribe.”
He has a lot of very good points. This anti-white rhetoric is indeed fueling something, but I don’t know why that something must be characterized as “white nationalism,” with all the negative connotations that carries. Neither am I sure that “tribe” is the best word to describe the way minorities have seen themselves in relation to whites.
Still, it’s a great article. I’m saving it to look over at my leisure.
“And THAT stirs up the racial envy in some folks.”
Having lived in Japan for over 20 years, I know a thing or two about sticking out. Still, Japan is their country. They are Joe Average. In America, whites are being told that they may no longer be the wallpaper. We are being told, “America used to belong to you; now it belongs to us. Stand by to be our niggers for a change.”
“But we white people haven’t done anything extraordinary to be here.”
I beg your pardon. Western Civilization. Mankind has never risen higher than the peak of Western Civilization.
“if he’ll only get his education, get through school, get to work and be consistently industrious about it.”
And that’s one reason I no longer do the “I’m Not a Racist” dance. Americans whites surrendered in the sixties, threw up their hands, and told the blacks, “Whatever you want, take it. Just don’t hurt us.” But it’s never enough. Why is it never enough, one might ask?
Because a slave does not dream of freedom; a slave dreams of being a master.
Nothing less will ever satisfy.
“And a hard-working, bright, studious black man can even get a few miles further down the road than the white boys that grew up around his hometown.”
Yes, and so can a lazy, obstreperous, race-card-playing affirmative action milker.
“Where does the world think we get people like Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, anyway?”
From the Blue-Eyed-Devil Uncle Tom Academy, of course.
“White people aren’t inherently better people”
Stipulating that for the purpose of argument, does that mean we are obligated to give our stuff to people who have no claim on it? Including our very country?
“Racial supremacism just isn’t in the genetic code of American Constitutional Conservatism.”
However, realism is. People just have to accept that equal opportunity leads to disparate results.
“But the left thinks they can use the evident white supremacism of some as a poison to taint all of Conservatism, and if Conservatives don’t push back, and work overtime to identify bona fide supremacists and weed ‘em out; well, the left might enjoy a long, strong run of success.”
Now, see, I think that’s playing right into their hands.
You are accepting that we have a need to “weed them out,” which means that they were in in the first place. When the lying scum say that there is something right wing about racism, just answer “FOAD, leftard slime, racism belongs to you.”
No responsibility lands on us just because white supremacists—or perhaps we should start calling them white survivalists—agree with us on other issues. It’s just that we have been giant pussies, too afraid to stand up to the lying bullies.