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The truth about "we are a nation of immigrants" so we can't have any restrictions or limits.
1 posted on 08/15/2017 7:21:30 AM PDT by all the best
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In our early history immigrants tended to come from relatively "civilized" parts of the world...Europe particularly.Also there was no "safety net" back then.When you arrived you knew that unless you could support yourself or depend on family to support you starvation was certain.

The two big differences between then and now.

2 posted on 08/15/2017 7:28:51 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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we are a nation of immigrants

I have observed that many people, usually those who support the progressive movement and other liberal socialist agendas, confuses the word "immigrant" with the word "settler".

we are a nation of immigrants settlers followed by controlled immigration.

3 posted on 08/15/2017 7:33:08 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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Few people realize that immigration was virtually shut down from 1920 until the late 1960’s. I think Johnson eased up because he saw the rising standard of living in the US as eroding the Democrat voting base plus the impact of civil rights legislation going into effect. Now Democrats want to totally ignore the law and for us to stop enforcing the laws we do have on the books. Why the GOP does such a piss-poor job of getting this message across just baffles me.

The GOP has totally lost its spine. We conservatives have given them the House, the Senate, and now the WH, and what have they done with that power for us? Absolutely nothing. McConnell can’t even get them to pass tax reform, let alone repeal Obamacare and immigration reform like EVERY ONE OF THEM PROMISED! Sorry, GOP, but until I see you doing something for US, my wallet’s closed.


4 posted on 08/15/2017 7:38:02 AM PDT by econjack
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I hate the saying about immigrants.

My family were colonists and fought in the American Revolution.

Then some moved to Texas when it was a country. They also did not immigrate to the US.


7 posted on 08/15/2017 7:57:34 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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A nation is made up of immigrants. It’s made up of citizens.


8 posted on 08/15/2017 7:59:45 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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When I petitioned for my husband to emigrate to the USA, I had to sign an affidavit that he would not become dependent on the Government for his livelihood. He had a job within 3 weeks of emigrating and we have never looked back. The SJWs have done a good job of making some weaker Americans feel guilty that they aren’t ‘compassionate’ enough, just because we want our immigration laws followed/enforced. GROW A SPINE, ELECTED REPUBLICANS! Laws are there for a reason......otherwise we have ANARCHY (Which is what the Dems want.......a constant state of turmoil which they think will be to their benefit next election)


10 posted on 08/15/2017 8:14:11 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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From the late, great Larry Auster

It used to be that only open-borders activists said it. Now the entire political leadership of the United States is saying it. President Bush is saying it. Sen. Specter is saying it. Even Sen. Bill "enforcement-only" Frist is saying it:

"We are a nation of immigrants built upon the rule of law."

Of course, that cute little addition about "rule of law" is nothing but boob bait for the Bubbas (a category of persons that, in the minds of our leaders, seems to constitute about three-quarters of the country); our leaders have as much intention to enforce the immigration laws as I have to fly to Mars next week. The part of the statement that counts is the business about "nation of immigrants." To see the entire political leadership of our country pronouncing in unison this slogan, all as a part of an effort to push through the most catastrophic open-borders scheme in our history, is an Orwellian experience. If we're a "nation of immigrants," how can we be a nation of Americans?

To say that America is a "nation of immigrants" is to imply that there has never been an actual American people apart from immigration. It is to put America out of existence as a historically existing nation that immigrants and their children joined by coming here, a country with its own right to exist and to determine its own sovereign destiny—a right that includes the right to permit immigration or not. No patriot, no decent person who loves this country, as distinct from loving some whacked-out, anti-national, leftist idea of this country, would call it a "nation of immigrants." Any elected official who utters the subversive canard that America is a "nation of immigrants" should, at the least, find his phone lines tied up with calls from irate constituents.

Of course, at first glance it seems indisputable that "we are a nation of immigrants," in the sense that all Americans, even including the American Indians, are either immigrants themselves or descendants of people who came here from other places. Given those facts, it would have been more accurate to say that we are "a nation of descendants of immigrants." But such a mundane assertion would fail to convey the thrilling idea conjured up by the phrase "nation of immigrants"—the idea that all of us, whether or not we are literally immigrants, are somehow "spiritually" immigrants, in the sense that the immigrant experience defines our character as Americans.

This friendly-sounding, inclusive sentiment—like so many others of its kind—turns out to be profoundly exclusive. For one thing, it implies that anyone who is not an immigrant, or who does not identify with immigration as a key aspect of his own being, is not a "real" American. It also suggests that newly arrived immigrants are more American than people whose ancestors have been here for generations. The public television essayist Richard Rodriguez spelled out these assumptions back in the 1990s when he declared, in his enervated, ominous tone: "Those of us who live in this country are not the point of America. The newcomers are the point of America." Certainly the illegal-alien demonstrators in Los Angeles last week agreed with him; America, they kept telling us, belongs to them, not to us.

In reality, we are not—even in a figurative sense—a nation of immigrants or even a nation of descendants of immigrants. As Chilton Williamson pointed out in The Immigration Mystique, the 80,000 mostly English and Scots-Irish settlers of colonial times, the ancestors of America’s historic Anglo-Saxon majority, had not transplanted themselves from one nation to another (which is what defines immigration), but from Britain and its territories to British colonies. They were not immigrants, but colonists. The immigrants of the late nineteenth and twentieth centuries came to an American nation that had already been formed by those colonists and their descendants. Therefore to call America "a nation of immigrants" is to suggest that America, prior to the late nineteenth century wave of European immigration, was not America. It is to imply that George Washington and Ulysses S. Grant (descended from the original colonists) were not "real" Americans, but that Richard Rodriguez (descended from 20th century immigrants) and the anti-American demonstrators last week in Los Angeles, are.

Apart from its politically correct function of diminishing the Anglo-Saxon Americans of the pre-Ellis Island period and their descendants, the "nation of immigrants" motto is meaningless in practical terms. Except for open-borders utopians (a group that has grown over the years until now it seems to constitute a majority of the Democratic Party), everyone knows that we must have some limits on immigration. The statement, "we are a nation of immigrants," gives us no guidance on what those limits should be. Two hundred thousand immigrants per year? Two million? Why not twenty million—since we’re a nation of immigrants? The slogan also doesn’t tell us, once we have decided on overall numbers, what the criterion of selection shall be among the people who want to come here. Do we choose on the basis of family ties to recent immigrants? Language? Income? Nationality? Race? Victim status? First come first served? Willingness to work for a lower wage than Americans work for? The "nation of immigrants" slogan cannot help us choose among these criteria because it doesn’t state any good that is to be achieved by immigration. It simply produces a blind emotional bias in favor of more immigration rather than less, making rational discussion of the issue impossible.

To see the uselessness of the "nation of immigrants" formula as a source of political guidance, , imagine what the British would have said if they had adopted it in 1940 when they were facing an imminent invasion by Hitler’s Germany. "Look, old man, we’re a nation of immigrant/invaders. First the Celts took the land from the Neolithic peoples, then the Anglo-Saxons conquered and drove out the Celts, then the Normans invaded and subjugated the Anglo-Saxons. In between there were Danish invaders and settlers and Viking marauders as well. Since we ourselves are descended from invaders, who are we to oppose yet another invasion of this island? Being invaded by Germanic barbarians is our national tradition!"

Since every nation could be called a nation of immigrants (or a nation of invaders) if you go back far enough, consistent application of the principle that a nation of immigrants must be open to all future immigrants would require every country on earth to open its borders to whoever wanted to come. But only the United States and, to a lesser extent, a handful of other Western nations, are said to have this obligation. The rule of openness to immigrants turns out to be a double standard, aimed solely at America and the West.

It is also blatantly unfair to make the factoid that "we are all descended from immigrants" our sole guide to national policy, when there are so many other important and true facts about America that could also serve as guides. For example, throughout its history the United States has been a member of Western civilization—in religion overwhelmingly Christian (and mainly Protestant Christian), in race (until the post-1965 immigration) overwhelmingly white, in language English. Why shouldn’t those little historical facts be at least as important in determining our immigration policy as the pseudo-fact that we’re all "descended from immigrants?" But immigrant advocates are incapable of debating such questions, because there is no rational benefit for America that they seek through open immigration. Their aim is not to strengthen and preserve America; their aim is to demonstrate themselves to be good, non-racist people—by surrendering America to the immigrant invasion.

11 posted on 08/15/2017 8:19:30 AM PDT by kabar
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bkmk


14 posted on 08/15/2017 9:57:27 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Except for Native Americans, we are all immigrants or children of immigrants.

Well that's quite a useless statement. There can only be two classes of citizen - native and naturalized. And it's incorrect - I'm a native American and I'm a child of a child of a child of immigrants. Not sure how far back, think half of my dad is great-granparent level, the rest further back to find the immigrant. Native Americans can be children of immigrants just fine.
15 posted on 08/15/2017 10:10:03 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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I come from a long line of “settlers” myself


18 posted on 08/15/2017 10:41:10 AM PDT by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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