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To: Timpanagos1
How long will it be before rallies that are not kkk or neonazis, but mainstream conservatives get disallowed? probably not long.

Two big things are purposefully being lost sight of here-
1)everyone has a right to free speech even if their views are not popular

2)left wing extremist groups (Black lives matter, antifa etc) are at least as bad, if not worse than right wing groups.

4 posted on 08/14/2017 10:42:00 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (The only thing standing in the way of full blown leftist totalitarianism in America is Donald Trump)
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It is not that they are not allowed at Texas A&M, it is that no one at Texas A&M wants to invite them.

They are not welcome on campus.


7 posted on 08/14/2017 10:45:07 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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That sort of thing has already been happening to a certain degree - witness what happens in some places to conservative speakers like David Horowitz, Anne Coulter, Ben Shapiro, etc. - they have to be cancelled because they are literally in mortal danger. In addition to conservative individuals and organizations being designated as “hate groups” just because they don’t like they offer a different take on things than they do and therefore “nondiverse”. Hence, why so many were initially skeptical at media coverage that the rally in Charlottesville actually did involve white supremacist organizations because of all of the previous, uncountable number of false depictions of people that were not white supremacists as white supremacists, racists, etc. They are terms that have been thrown around so loosely in deliberately false reporting it was initially dismissed as the same thing again...after a bit of research it was clear that, indeed, we did not have the KKK, neo-Nazis, David Duke, etc. as the organizers and participants in that event - low and behold, they actually were white supremacists. But the left / media will continue the false narrative and probably claim any conservative organization or individual was a member of these groups that organized the rally.


11 posted on 08/14/2017 10:48:33 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Cubs Fan
That sort of thing has already been happening to a certain degree - witness what happens in some places to conservative speakers like David Horowitz, Anne Coulter, Ben Shapiro, etc. - they have to be cancelled because they are literally in mortal danger. In addition to conservative individuals and organizations being designated as “hate groups” just because they don’t like they offer a different take on things than they do and therefore “nondiverse”. Hence, why so many were initially skeptical at media coverage that the rally in Charlottesville actually did involve white supremacist organizations because of all of the previous, uncountable number of false depictions of people that were not white supremacists as white supremacists, racists, etc. They are terms that have been thrown around so loosely in deliberately false reporting it was initially dismissed as the same thing again...after a bit of research it was clear that, indeed, we did have the KKK, neo-Nazis, David Duke, etc. as the organizers and participants in that event - low and behold, they actually were white supremacists. But the left / media will continue the false narrative and probably claim any conservative organization or individual was a member of these groups that organized the rally.
13 posted on 08/14/2017 10:49:56 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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You don’t poke a hornets’ nest till you have a sufficiently large can of Raid handy. These problems didn’t arrive overnight. They will not vanish overnight. The appropriate warfare is asymmetric.


30 posted on 08/14/2017 11:05:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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Agreed. I do not advocate what any of those groups do, but this is a huge blow to free speech in the nation. Now, you only have the freedom to say what protesters or the government WANTS you to say. It is plain and simple.


32 posted on 08/14/2017 11:06:09 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Make no mistake - the antifa argument - that conservative or right-wing speech CONSTITUTES violence, and therefore voids first amendment protection and constitutes a defense to assault and mayhem as “self-defense” is an argument without limit, and if you all allow it to work when the victims are too far right for your taste, it is an argument that will be knocking on YOUR front door before you know it.


37 posted on 08/14/2017 11:11:39 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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The minute they do go after a non-white supremacist target it will make it politically correct to drop the hammer on them. Maybe they’ll get too enthusiastic and overplay their hand soon.

Once they’re done destroying all the art they will start thinking about going after books...and mob libraries to “cleanse” them.


82 posted on 08/15/2017 3:06:07 AM PDT by piasa
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Well considering that if you're not a communist/antifa that automatically makes you a nazi, so I'd say it'll happen very soon. It's like how if you are a white Christian male heterosexual, you're automatically racist and responsible for all the suffering and oppression in the world.


86 posted on 08/15/2017 3:20:42 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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I posed the question yesterday about TEA party rallies. What would happen if the TEA party tried to hold a rally?


88 posted on 08/15/2017 3:50:23 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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1)everyone has a right to free speech even if their views are not popular

Especially groups which are peaceful as the white supremacists have proven to be, absent any assaultive confrontation by leftist agitators.

2)left wing extremist groups (Black lives matter, antifa etc) are at least as bad, if not worse than right wing groups.

I take exception to categorizing Ayrian groups as "right wing." I've been hearing the "extremeist" jargon over this event, and I reject it. how is being extremely conservative a bad thing? That's like avoiding extreme health.

90 posted on 08/15/2017 4:16:24 AM PDT by fwdude (Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
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I don’t know that these “white nationalist” are actually white supremacist, kkk, etc. Are they? Or is this just another attempt by the left to shut down dissent? Everybody who disagrees with them is a white supremacist, you know.


95 posted on 08/15/2017 4:33:14 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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In the past, white supremacist were evil. In the 21st Century, black supremacists are evil.


98 posted on 08/15/2017 5:06:44 AM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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‘How long will it be before rallies that are not kkk or neonazis, but mainstream conservatives get disallowed? probably not long.’

but look at the bright side...President Trump and VP Pence won’t have to grovel in front of the cameras...there’s always a silver lining, right...?


101 posted on 08/15/2017 5:32:54 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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A&M will cave and host an antifa / BLM in a heartbeat. Just watch.


106 posted on 08/15/2017 6:16:41 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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