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This is the chilling way Trident nuclear submarine commanders would know that the UK has been ...
The Sun ^ | 12th August 2017 | George Harrison

Posted on 08/13/2017 5:22:47 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: LS

Doesn’t seem to still be in publication, too bad. I’d like to read it.


21 posted on 08/13/2017 9:00:07 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie
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To: Twotone; All
My sweetie was a sub-guy. He’s told me before that they had to keep radio silence while on patrol, but they were always listening to what was going on top-side. If it suddenly became silent, it would be ‘assumed’ that we’d been nuked & they would launch their weapons.

PURE BS

An American submarine will NEVER launch nuclear weapons unless they receive a properly authenticated message and then the XO and the CO will announce over the 1MC.......

I was NUC Nuclear propulsion qualified officer. When I was getting my CO sign off for OOD, I had finished everybody on the boat that I needed signatures for and the captain's final sig off was my final signature needed. The captain decided to concentrate on communications and specifically antennas. I had been a ham radio operator since I was a kid, I had a masters degree in Elect Eng and I took every antenna course offered at the Univ of Fla. To pay me back for embarrassing him :-) because he knew a lot of facts about radio/comm (but he didn't understand the physics and math behind what he knew), he changed my life later on.

When one of the Weaps officer transferred, the captain made me comm officer. The Engineer said in front of me to the captain "you cannot take one of my nuclear officers up forward." The captain replied "It's my ship and I can do what I want to."

That was the best year in my short navy career. I spent a bunch of time with radiomen teaching them Morse code..... Before every patrol, the captain, XO, NAV and Comm officer would go to SUBLANT and get briefings. The average junior officer and especially the enlisted crew had little idea of what intelligence was being discussed. To this day, I will say very little about what this paragraph means.

I used to go into radio on patrol (around the Arctic circle where the inside of the engine room hull was covered in ice (seawater freezes a few degrees below 32F) so condensation formed ice on the inside of the sub, especially seawater piping for equipment cooling). I routinely listened to VLF radio stations out of Europe. I won't go into the antenna configurations available as I don't know what is classified and what isn't, but we could hear more than you think.

For official traffic, there was Cutler, Maine and Annapolis broadcasting 24/7. That was where we would got official, encrypted comm. And there was backup to that.

I think my best receiver now goes down to 100 khz so I haven't listened to anything lower since my sub days.

The reason I wrote this is to kill the notion that subs would launch on loss of comm. This statement is absolutely WRONG.

22 posted on 08/13/2017 9:18:41 AM PDT by politicianslie (There are no MODERATE MUSLIMS.. ALL MUSLMS are commanded by KORAN to kill infidels. ALL MUST GO!)
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To: GOPJ
"Exploding Penguin on TV"
23 posted on 08/13/2017 9:20:34 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

You forget that the British are masters at How Not To Be Seen.


24 posted on 08/13/2017 9:33:02 AM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: politicianslie

Question:
Subs need to send up an antenna to the surface in order to transmit and receive communications, correct?
I’m pretty sure radio waves can’t travel through water, ....except on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.


25 posted on 08/13/2017 9:42:29 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: PlateOfShrimp
You forget that the British are masters at How Not To Be Seen.

Indeed I did. But some are not as good as others.


26 posted on 08/13/2017 10:02:20 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/12/18/us/developing-submarine-communications-system.html?pagewanted=all


27 posted on 08/13/2017 10:16:06 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: GOPJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyFxXdqtGNk


28 posted on 08/13/2017 10:28:10 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: JohnnyP

Fascinating. Thanks


29 posted on 08/13/2017 10:32:16 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: politicianslie

In the article it states that if things go silent, they open orders & proceed accordingly. That’s exactly what our guys would do. If an EMP knocks out all communications, they’re not going to sit there wondering what to do. They’re going to follow the pre-arranged orders for what happens in that particular event.

There may be people trained like you for all different kinds of communications. And maybe (today) there would be the ability to get SOMETHING from some kind of technology. In which case, they would certainly try to get orders from the proper authorities. It still does not nullify what was written in this article or the comments of my sub-guy.


30 posted on 08/13/2017 10:44:18 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: DaveA37
"I hope those subs don’t rely on the media for an “update”, with all the fake news and satire, the crap COULD hit the fan (SHTF).......NOT GOOD!"

Or the exact opposite.

"All is well there has been no bombing we are fine here go back to submarining"

31 posted on 08/13/2017 10:53:12 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tyranny can hide within decorum.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Tridents. “We hide, with pride”


32 posted on 08/13/2017 11:01:50 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Allahu FUBAR)
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To: politicianslie

Your sweetie was a BS artist like all sailors. You should have avoided a Submariner as soon as he laid the first line on you. Lol see my screen name.


33 posted on 08/13/2017 11:07:16 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Allahu FUBAR)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

LOL!


34 posted on 08/13/2017 1:05:25 PM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: Svartalfiar

I’m partial to the ‘dead parrot’ ... but this is genius

First Pepperpot Which zoo?
Second Pepperpot How should I know which zoo? I’m not Doctor bloody Bernowski.
First Pepperpot How does Doctor Bernowski know which zoo it came from?
Second Pepperpot He knows everything.
First Pepperpot Oooh, I wouldn’t like that, that’d take all the mystery out of life. Anyway, if it came from the zoo, it would have ‘property of the zoo’ stamped on it.
Second Pepperpot No it wouldn’t. They don’t stamp animals ‘property of the zoo’. You can’t stamp a huge lion.
First Pepperpot They stamp them when they’re small.
Second Pepperpot What happens when they moult?
First Pepperpot Lions don’t moult.
Second Pepperpot No, but penguins do. There, I’ve run rings around you logically.
First Pepperpot Oh, intercourse the penguin.
On the TV screen there now appears an announcer.
TV Announcer It’s just gone 8 o’clock and time for the penguin on top of your television set to explode.
The penguin on top of the set now explodes.
First Pepperpot How did he know that was going to happen?!
TV Announcer It was an inspired guess. And now...


35 posted on 08/13/2017 1:39:08 PM PDT by GOPJ (Shaming into silence is the antithesis of psychological safety-James Damore-fired for speaking truth)
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To: blam

Thanks. I knew the Navy used extremely low frequency comms from ground rich in iron, but I didn’t know it was from WI.


36 posted on 08/13/2017 2:58:50 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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