Posted on 08/13/2017 5:22:47 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Doesn’t seem to still be in publication, too bad. I’d like to read it.
PURE BS
An American submarine will NEVER launch nuclear weapons unless they receive a properly authenticated message and then the XO and the CO will announce over the 1MC.......
I was NUC Nuclear propulsion qualified officer. When I was getting my CO sign off for OOD, I had finished everybody on the boat that I needed signatures for and the captain's final sig off was my final signature needed. The captain decided to concentrate on communications and specifically antennas. I had been a ham radio operator since I was a kid, I had a masters degree in Elect Eng and I took every antenna course offered at the Univ of Fla. To pay me back for embarrassing him :-) because he knew a lot of facts about radio/comm (but he didn't understand the physics and math behind what he knew), he changed my life later on.
When one of the Weaps officer transferred, the captain made me comm officer. The Engineer said in front of me to the captain "you cannot take one of my nuclear officers up forward." The captain replied "It's my ship and I can do what I want to."
That was the best year in my short navy career. I spent a bunch of time with radiomen teaching them Morse code..... Before every patrol, the captain, XO, NAV and Comm officer would go to SUBLANT and get briefings. The average junior officer and especially the enlisted crew had little idea of what intelligence was being discussed. To this day, I will say very little about what this paragraph means.
I used to go into radio on patrol (around the Arctic circle where the inside of the engine room hull was covered in ice (seawater freezes a few degrees below 32F) so condensation formed ice on the inside of the sub, especially seawater piping for equipment cooling). I routinely listened to VLF radio stations out of Europe. I won't go into the antenna configurations available as I don't know what is classified and what isn't, but we could hear more than you think.
For official traffic, there was Cutler, Maine and Annapolis broadcasting 24/7. That was where we would got official, encrypted comm. And there was backup to that.
I think my best receiver now goes down to 100 khz so I haven't listened to anything lower since my sub days.
The reason I wrote this is to kill the notion that subs would launch on loss of comm. This statement is absolutely WRONG.
You forget that the British are masters at How Not To Be Seen.
Question:
Subs need to send up an antenna to the surface in order to transmit and receive communications, correct?
I’m pretty sure radio waves can’t travel through water, ....except on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
Indeed I did. But some are not as good as others.
Fascinating. Thanks
In the article it states that if things go silent, they open orders & proceed accordingly. That’s exactly what our guys would do. If an EMP knocks out all communications, they’re not going to sit there wondering what to do. They’re going to follow the pre-arranged orders for what happens in that particular event.
There may be people trained like you for all different kinds of communications. And maybe (today) there would be the ability to get SOMETHING from some kind of technology. In which case, they would certainly try to get orders from the proper authorities. It still does not nullify what was written in this article or the comments of my sub-guy.
Or the exact opposite.
"All is well there has been no bombing we are fine here go back to submarining"
Tridents. “We hide, with pride”
Your sweetie was a BS artist like all sailors. You should have avoided a Submariner as soon as he laid the first line on you. Lol see my screen name.
LOL!
I’m partial to the ‘dead parrot’ ... but this is genius
First Pepperpot Which zoo?
Second Pepperpot How should I know which zoo? I’m not Doctor bloody Bernowski.
First Pepperpot How does Doctor Bernowski know which zoo it came from?
Second Pepperpot He knows everything.
First Pepperpot Oooh, I wouldn’t like that, that’d take all the mystery out of life. Anyway, if it came from the zoo, it would have ‘property of the zoo’ stamped on it.
Second Pepperpot No it wouldn’t. They don’t stamp animals ‘property of the zoo’. You can’t stamp a huge lion.
First Pepperpot They stamp them when they’re small.
Second Pepperpot What happens when they moult?
First Pepperpot Lions don’t moult.
Second Pepperpot No, but penguins do. There, I’ve run rings around you logically.
First Pepperpot Oh, intercourse the penguin.
On the TV screen there now appears an announcer.
TV Announcer It’s just gone 8 o’clock and time for the penguin on top of your television set to explode.
The penguin on top of the set now explodes.
First Pepperpot How did he know that was going to happen?!
TV Announcer It was an inspired guess. And now...
Thanks. I knew the Navy used extremely low frequency comms from ground rich in iron, but I didn’t know it was from WI.
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