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James Damore Was Right: The Inconvenient Truth Behind The Google Memo
Townhall.com ^ | August 12, 2017 | John Hawkins

Posted on 08/12/2017 4:30:10 AM PDT by Kaslin

“In my document, I committed heresy against the Google creed by stating that not all disparities between men and women that we see in the world are the result of discriminatory treatment.”James Damore

For black liberals, it’s always that ugly period between slavery and the Civil Rights era when they’re horribly oppressed while to feminists, we’re always stuck in the bad old days when women couldn’t vote, were encouraged not to go to college, and were generally thought to belong in the kitchen when they weren’t making babies. In fact, a feminist who sees the world as it really is in 2017 no longer qualifies as a feminist in the eyes of most liberals.

……Which brings us to James Damore’s now notorious memo at Google.

Let me suggest something that’s incredibly controversial: for the most part, Damore was right. That’s something you’re not supposed to say because the Gods of Feminism demand that we all bow down to the false idea that men and women are all exactly equal in every way that benefits women and that any differences that don’t work to the benefit of women must be explained by discrimination.

Of course, before we explain what James Damore was right about, it’s important to note the things liberals FALSELY claim he said.

He didn’t say women should be paid less than men. He didn’t argue that there should be no diversity. He didn’t argue that women are biologically inferior. He didn’t, as Brooke Baldwin at CNN falsely claimed, say anything remotely like, “I don’t really like women anywhere near a computer.”

Liberals always seem to find it easier to lie about what someone says and then kick the stuffing out of the strawman than to deal with their real argument.

So, what did Damore argue? Well, the crux of his argument is that Google’s engineers are mostly male because of a combination of cultural and biological reasons, not discrimination against women.

Was Damore right? Evolutionary psychology professor Geoffrey Miller (whose work I've read and enjoyed previously) says that he was spot-on.

For what it’s worth, I think that almost all of the Google memo’s empirical claims are scientifically accurate. Moreover, they are stated quite carefully and dispassionately. Its key claims about sex differences are especially well-supported by large volumes of research across species, cultures, and history. I know a little about sex differences research. On the topic of evolution and human sexuality, I’ve taught for 28 years, written 4 books and over 100 academic publications, given 190 talks, reviewed papers for over 50 journals, and mentored 11 Ph.D. students. Whoever the memo’s author is, he has obviously read a fair amount about these topics. Graded fairly, his memo would get at least an A- in any masters’ level psychology course. It is consistent with the scientific state of the art on sex differences.

Want some real-world evidence? Well, in our overwhelmingly liberal college system, 57% of college students are female. Additionally, women outnumber men in grad school by a 136 to 100 ratio. Of course, if those numbers were reversed and male students made up 57% of college students, it would be considered a national crisis. But who cares as long as men are the ones getting the short end of the stick, right?

In any case, our college system is liberal. It pushes “diversity” and “girl power” non-stop. There are more women than men going to college. The percentages skew even more in women’s favor when you’re talking about grad school. Yet, 67% of the math degrees and 75% of the engineering doctoral degrees go to men. Meanwhile, women dominate fields like education, public administration and social sciences. Ever note that it’s not a crisis that most teachers are female? That’s curious, isn’t it? Especially since boys tend to be doing worse than girls in our education system. In any case, if women are CHOOSING not to get math and engineering degrees, is it any shock that men dominate tech companies like Google? A women’s studies degree may help you get “woke,” but it doesn’t prepare you to code for a firm in Silicon Valley.

Are women less capable of doing tech on a high level? That’s entirely possible, especially when you consider IQ differences. Keep in mind that although men and women have equivalent IQs and there are certainly many female geniuses, female intelligence tends to be closer to the average intelligence while male intelligence tends to be much more variable. Put another way, there are more dumb men than dumb women, but male geniuses also outnumber female geniuses 7-to-1. So when you’re talking about a highly competitive, highly intellectual field, men are typically going to outstrip women in numbers almost by default. That doesn’t make men better or women worse; it just makes us different.

Setting that side, you also have to consider that there are different incentives for men and women when it comes to finding a career. Culturally, men are still expected to be providers in a relationship. That drives them to find high paying jobs. Meanwhile, 95% of men don’t care if a woman is an engineer or a maid as long as she’s pretty, treats them well and they enjoy being around her. As a practical matter, most women are not wired that way. A man who makes good money and has a prestigious job tends to have a leg up on one that doesn’t. In other words, a man may feel more compelled to pursue a STEM education than a woman simply because it’s much more likely to benefit him with the opposite sex than a degree in education or social sciences.

If you ignore those realities because they clash with a feminist agenda, you end up with a CEO noting that Google “strongly support(s) the right of Googlers to express themselves” and “co-workers shouldn’t have to worry that each time they open their mouths to speak in a meeting,” right before he fires someone for daring to state a truth that didn’t line up with liberal dogma. Google likes to say that the company motto is, “Don’t be evil.” It should try living up to it sometime.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
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1 posted on 08/12/2017 4:30:10 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

If you’re running a mile relay, do you want the four fastest runners, or the most diverse team?


2 posted on 08/12/2017 5:01:33 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: Kaslin
But who cares as long as men are the ones getting the short end of the stick, right?

The creed of the Feminazi (though, never actually spoken...).

3 posted on 08/12/2017 5:02:19 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Kaslin

Google is evil


4 posted on 08/12/2017 5:11:28 AM PDT by datricker (Why are Trump lawyers on TV and not Hillary's - Lock her up! Lock her up!)
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To: Kaslin

Why is it we NEVER hear the Feminazi’s criticizing the objectification of women by islam?

Apparently, getting more women top paying technology jobs regardless of their desire or aptitude to perform those jobs is a bigger problem than the systemic female genital mutilation that occurs in many parts of the world, even in Minnesota, all in the name of islam.


5 posted on 08/12/2017 5:13:29 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Kaslin
This is a story that the Left will try its hardest to suppress because it could end up hurting the hard-Left leaning technology industry.

Not only does Google suffer from this groupthink problem, but in many ways it's even worse at Facebook and Twitter. It won't be long before some whistleblower comes out of the shadows and accuses Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey of fostering a similar groupthink environment.

6 posted on 08/12/2017 5:24:22 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Kaslin

One of the reasons society is what is, God’s plan of manly leadership is being pushed aside for women’s equality, and God didn’t design us that way. There should be more men in college and in grad school, that should be pushed, not higher diversity.


7 posted on 08/12/2017 5:27:33 AM PDT by pangaea6
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To: Hat-Trick

The de-genderizers think there is something wrong with any society where men and women walk different paths in life, e.g., there was something wrong with Harry Truman’s mother because she wasn’t into science and technology.


8 posted on 08/12/2017 5:30:19 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: Kaslin; pookie18

9 posted on 08/12/2017 5:37:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

“Are women less capable of doing tech on a high level? “

Being capable and being willing to throw your heart and soul into something and to work nights and weekends on long projects are two different things. In my decades in IT, few women are willing to do the later and that does change their value to their employers.

No amount of ideology or good wishes can alter those facts. When people do, only bad things happen.


10 posted on 08/12/2017 5:51:38 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks, Travis McGee...will rerun on Mon...it's a bit better than the one I ran recently:
11 posted on 08/12/2017 5:55:31 AM PDT by pookie18
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To: Kaslin

So men get degrees in useful fields, while women focus on what could be called “pursuits of the idle rich”. Great idea if you are independently wealthy, but not a recipe for success as a responsible head of household. Since women focus on the degrees that don’t provide a return on investment, it means that things have not changed much since the 1950’s, when many girls went to college to major in finding a husband. Now it has a different name, and increasingly a different result.


12 posted on 08/12/2017 6:05:58 AM PDT by Bernard (If we could tax Stupid, Congress could balance the budget)
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To: Kaslin

There is nothing “modern” about feminism! It is ancient in its roots.


13 posted on 08/12/2017 6:11:29 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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To: Kaslin
That’s something you’re not supposed to say because the Gods of Feminism demand that we all bow down to the false idea that men and women are all exactly equal in every way that benefits women and that any differences that don’t work to the benefit of women must be explained by discrimination.

The Gods of Feminism have been unable to overcome this barrier of biology, that women are actually interested in different things than men. So they've ramped it up now. They're pretending that the biological differences between men and women are nothing, that the fact that one has different genitalia than the other is no more consequential than the fact that some people have brown hair, some have blond, and a very few have orange. Never mind that women lose bigly when men can pretend to be women and outdo them in those areas reserved for women (women's sports). This only creates cognitive dissonance, which is a normal state for liberals.

14 posted on 08/12/2017 6:24:26 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: jeffc

‘The creed of the Feminazi (though, never actually spoken...).’

yes, but their comeback will always be ‘so now the jackboot is on the other foot...see how you like it...


15 posted on 08/12/2017 6:26:37 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Hat-Trick

Good question. Also, why don’t we EVER hear about the Mommy Track? Women dropping out of or taking time off from the employment scene?

Think that might help account for the “disparity” of women in STEM, law, business et al? For sure it does, I see it all the time . . . highly educated, smart women who are happily married and perfectly content to play parent and homemaker, with no intention of returning to the labor market. Certainly not with their now-outdated technical skills, continuing education, experience, etc.

Or such women who have taken so much maternity leave and time off that they’ve fallen behind their peers in productivity and experience and promotion. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, they are to be complimented for family first. But it does help explain why the numbers don’t match up for the quotas that feminazis want


16 posted on 08/12/2017 6:27:19 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW! Boycott Mex/Can, nba NFL PepsiCO Kellogg'sB)
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To: Kaslin

bfl


17 posted on 08/12/2017 6:28:40 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Socon-Econ
>> There is something wrong with any society where men and women walk different paths in life <<

It is perfectly PC to recognize differences between the sexes if a mentally ill person wants to make the case to change from their "assigned gender" to their "gender identity".
18 posted on 08/12/2017 6:29:03 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Kaslin
Put another way, there are more dumb men than dumb women, but male geniuses also outnumber female geniuses 7-to-1. So when you’re talking about a highly competitive, highly intellectual field, men are typically going to outstrip women in numbers almost by default.

Even in areas where genius women pursue careers in STEM fields, they are only drawn to certain careers. And how they conduct themselves in those careers is different from the way men conduct themselves. I see this every day... the majority (11/15) of the Ph.D. level scientists I supervise are men, and the men are far more focused on the science and more likely to put in long hours. I see other differences, as well. While I do not have a large sample size, I suspect that a systematic study would confirm that the differences I see are real.

19 posted on 08/12/2017 6:32:00 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: theBuckwheat

‘In my decades in IT, few women are willing to do the later and that does change their value to their employers.’

but, but, on TV commercials we see women staying at the office after closing, and doing work related travelling, leaving the Mr. at home to fend for the family, which the TV commercials also tell us he can’t even do for himself, much less the kids, without blowing the house to smithereens...and then phoning the wife and begging her to come home...


20 posted on 08/12/2017 6:32:26 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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