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F-35B Pilots Will Make Rolling Landings Like This To Board Royal Navy Carriers
The Drive ^ | AUGUST 4, 2017 | TYLER ROGOWAY

Posted on 08/05/2017 10:51:29 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Fixed-wing aircraft carrier aviation is not cheap, and short takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL) aircraft have a limited ability to bring back unspent fuel and ordnance to the ship after a mission is completed. This means good gas gets dumped, and even worse, weapons that cost thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars get jettisoned into the sea.

The Royal Navy wants their F-35Bs to be able to the return to the ship with more gas and weapons than they normally could by landing vertically on the decks of their two new Queen Elizabeth classaircraft carriers. The aim is to accomplish this by making a slow-speed—57 knots indicated airspeed to be exact—rolling recovery down the ship's landing and departure area, instead of a vertical landing. Officially this hybrid maneuver, which uses lift from the aircraft's wings and thrust from its engine and lift fan, has been dubbed a "Shipborne Rolling Vertical Landing," or SRVL for short.

Another advantage of standardizing this recovery concept is that it will put less wear and tear on the F-35B's costly lift fan and its associated subsystems and linkages—a move that could potentially save large sums of money over the aircraft's operational life. It would also help alleviating thermal wear on the HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales titanium injected deck coatings.

And why not do it? The Royal Navy spent a lot of money building massive carriers for STOVL aircraft that can operate from much smaller ships. The ability to field this maneuver operationally, and to bring back more gas and munitions while prolonging hardware life could be another set of reasons used to justify those costs.

UK F-35B pilots have been working on perfecting this landing concept in the simulator, a video of which you can see below. Make sure you have the audio on so you can hear the play-by-play narration. Also note the little pictograph of the F-35 in the lower left corner of the Helmet Mounted Display's virtual HUD. It appears to show show the pilot the lift fan and main engine RPM. Pretty neat stuff.

The AV-8B Harrier also executes rolling landings, but its propulsion concept is totally different than the F-35B's. The Harrier relies on swiveling nozzles, two hot and two cold, along the sides of its fuselage, instead of a large geared lift fan linked to the jet's main engine and an elaborate swiveling main exhaust nozzle as found on the F-35B. Harriers usually make these rolling landings on runways and they are not common practice for shipboard operations. As for the possibility of adapting this same technique for F-35B operations aboard US "Gator Navy" LHD and LHAs, that's uncertain, although the operating and parking areas are much tighter on those ships than they are on the Royal Navy's Queen Elizabeth class carriers.

The difference in landing weight margin this recovery concept will afford the F-35B also isn't clear. The F-35B's takeoff and landing weight metrics are fairly opaque, but the B model cannot carry 2,000lb weapons internally, with its smaller bays capable of carrying 1,000lb class and smaller weapons. But for most missions the F-35B won't need stealth and can carry a larger and more diverse load of munitions and stores on its wing and centerline stations. In that case, clearly bring-back capability will be a major issue.

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The deck of the HMS Queen Elizabeth is roomy to say the least.

Being able to land with more gas saves money and helps with logistics because that fuel can be used on another mission. But most importantly, it also increases the safety margins for F-35 pilots—especially when operating from the ship in adverse weather.

Video shows F-35B training on a mock-up of a LHD deck and superstructure near Yuma, Arizona. The F-35B normally lands aboard a ship just like the Harrier, approaching slowly from the left over the water, stabilizing in hover and then moving laterally over the deck, before decreasing thrust until the aircraft touches down in its landing spot:

This method of recovery may be able to allow F-35Bs to better integrate with the operations of catapult and barrier arrested recovery aircraft carriers—specifically the US Navy's nuclear powered supercarriers. At this time there aren't any plans to integrate the F-35B model into the supercarrier's air wing, although the possibility of doing so was was briefly evaluated. Operational issues with the F-35B's launch, and especially its recovery cycle, and the fact that the B model is less capable in terms of range and payload than the C model, left Navy and Marine planners with the conclusion that cross-decking the B model to supercarriers wasn't a great idea.

The Harrier was evaluated for a similar arrangement, even being deployed at the squadron level with a carrier air wing early on. Even though it did operate from the Navy's big flattops on a few occasions decades later, the concept really never took hold. But maybe there is a possibility that the F-35B's story could be different due to this new recovery method, which could allows the B model to better fit into high-tempo the ship's recovery flow.

USN

AV-8B lands aboard the USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) during Desert Storm.

Currently the USMC plans to buy a number of C model F-35s in order to fulfill its limited carrier air wing fighter squadron contribution. But if the Navy were to successfully test the B model aboard a CVN with this landing new concept, maybe the USMC wound't have to buy any C models at all.

Here is what the shipboard rolling vertical landing looks like from the HMS Queen Elizabeth's tower's perspective, as well as a vertical landing:

Still, simulating something is different than doing it in real life consistently and in different weather conditions and sea states. Also, the whole affair relies heavily on the F-35's digital anti-skid breaking system. It would be interesting to hear what would happen if that system failed and the jet was sent careening down the deck towards the ship's ski jump at highway speeds, or even worse, into rows of aircraft parked on each side of the landing area.

If these concerns can be minimized, there is no doubt that this promising technique could expand the capability of the F-35B and the UK's new carrier force.

The F-35B is slated to begin trials aboard the HMS Queen Elizabeth next year. We will keep an eye on how this concept of operations unfolds and keep you updated.

Hat tip to UK Defense Journal.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f35b; royalnavy; stovl
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1 posted on 08/05/2017 10:51:29 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Quietly ... quietly ... nothing


2 posted on 08/05/2017 10:55:51 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/lamestream)
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To: no-to-illegals

Who is the dweeb on the aft end...stealing a ciggy break?


3 posted on 08/05/2017 10:57:43 AM PDT by Meadow Muffin
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To: Meadow Muffin

Preference short cigars


4 posted on 08/05/2017 10:59:25 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/lamestream)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I hope they have red Brembo brakes on them.

All the really fast cars have red Brembo brakes on them.

They say they really help for cornering.

Maybe they could help these planes corner better.

That and some good anti sway bars.


5 posted on 08/05/2017 10:59:34 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

If red lanterns and cowgirl hat am ready to confession huh


6 posted on 08/05/2017 11:07:03 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/lamestream)
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Thank you spell check


7 posted on 08/05/2017 11:08:49 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/lamestream)
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To: Meadow Muffin
That would be the aft lookout.

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8 posted on 08/05/2017 11:10:47 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Crashes coming.


9 posted on 08/05/2017 11:11:07 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Meadow Muffin

The tomatoes sliced well ....


10 posted on 08/05/2017 11:11:48 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/lamestream)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What’s in the boxes on the port side sponson?


11 posted on 08/05/2017 11:14:15 AM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.))
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Arnold Schwarzenegger did this in a movie already. lol

Why did it take them so long to figure this one out as practical? Not allowed to think?


12 posted on 08/05/2017 11:15:45 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: SandRat

Carrier landings have always seemed like semi-controlled crash landings to me.


13 posted on 08/05/2017 11:17:23 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: Meadow Muffin

He’s nervous in the service.


14 posted on 08/05/2017 11:24:14 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

But for most missions the F-35B won’t need stealth...

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But the taxpayers will be paying for it anyway.

And all that money goes into somebody’s pocket.


15 posted on 08/05/2017 11:24:30 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I had no idea they burned gas?


16 posted on 08/05/2017 11:32:02 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Meadow Muffin

Who is the dweeb on the aft end...stealing a ciggy break?

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He’s fishing. don’t you see the fishing pole?


17 posted on 08/05/2017 11:43:40 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: blueunicorn6

>>They say they really help for cornering.

Big brakes help cornering. Brembos are great big brakes. Manufacturers could develop something as good, but why spend the money when you can buy Brembo systems and drivers who care about cornering get good brakes and douchebags who care about logos get the red caliper and logo. It’s a Win-Win-Win.


18 posted on 08/05/2017 11:46:52 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: blueunicorn6
That and some good anti sway bars.

I was reading about the WWII Corsairs. The reason the Marines got them first was that the initial landing gear design was too "stubby" to allow stable ("safe") carrier landings.

19 posted on 08/05/2017 12:03:11 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’s going to eliminate simultaneous take-off’s and landings, if that was ever envisioned for the QE-class.


20 posted on 08/05/2017 12:14:00 PM PDT by Tallguy (Twitter short-circuits common sense. Please engage your brain before tweeting.)
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