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CSU eliminates remedial classes in push to improve graduation rates
Sacramento Bee ^ | August 3, 2017 | by Alexei Koseff

Posted on 08/04/2017 6:50:26 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Aiming to help thousands of students who get sidetracked in developmental courses that don’t count toward their degrees, California State University will do away next year with traditional remedial education.

Chancellor Timothy White directed the 23-campus system to overhaul by fall 2018 its curriculum for students found to be unprepared for college-level English and math. About 39 percent of CSU’s incoming freshmen, or 25,000 students, are required to take remedial classes for no credit before they can begin their general education.

“The idea that students have to take courses that don’t count toward their degree costs them money and costs them time,” said James Minor, senior strategist for academic success and inclusive excellence at CSU.

Nearly 3,300 freshmen who entered in fall 2015 did not complete their remedial classes and were ineligible to return to school.

“It really invites first-generation students to question whether or not they really belong in college,” Minor said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
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1 posted on 08/04/2017 6:50:27 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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Let’s see, they have too many students who can’t handle basic English and math, so the solution is to do away with remediation requirements and push many more through the university?!

It sounds like a recipe for lower standards.


2 posted on 08/04/2017 6:54:17 AM PDT by Enchante (Searching throughout the country for one honest Democrat....)
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California - Algebra Free Zone
<>Chancellor Eloy Ortiz Oakley

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http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/20/california-college-chancellor-wants-to-abolish-algebra-requirement-calls-it-a-civil-rights-issue/


3 posted on 08/04/2017 7:00:09 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I have been hearing this on the radio and can’t help myself from laughing out loud,

we need to eliminate Reading,Writing and Mathematics to increase the Graduation Rate at Colleges.

NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!


4 posted on 08/04/2017 7:02:54 AM PDT by eyeamok (Idle hands are the Devil's workshop)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wouldn’t be easier to just get rid of grades altogether? Then the graduation rate would be 100%.

I’m surprised California State University hasn’t already thought of this. Maybe I should apply to be their “senior strategist for academic success and inclusive excellence’”.


5 posted on 08/04/2017 7:11:17 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Enchante
Let's see the logic here Bill and Sally this year needed to take remedial math and English classes to prepare them for the rigors of college level English and math classes. This is just stupid. The students can't do college level so admit them and your degree becomes even worth less.
I had three daughters go to UC and CSU system schools. All took a remedial English class. Oh, they all graduated. Rather than teaching transponder sciences, teach English in high school, teach grammar not “I am a victim” courses, teach Civics not rioting. Right now 50% of high school students graduate with A level grades. Those grades are unless. The high school education system in California is a joke,
6 posted on 08/04/2017 7:12:52 AM PDT by Kozy (new age haruspex; "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.")
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To: Leaning Right

What idiot educators . Their now suspect degrees are truly worthless. Losers . They are sooooooo afraid of meritocracy and accountability.


7 posted on 08/04/2017 7:15:20 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“It really invites first-generation students to question whether or not they really belong in college,” Minor said.”

Irony can be so ironic.

L


8 posted on 08/04/2017 7:18:18 AM PDT by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So some students, we know who, are too stupid to learn the basics because they weren’t qualified to go to college because they were chosen for their race, religion or sexual deviancy and because these people failed, the classes are eliminated so that the failures won’t know they’re failures, and will go into the business world unprepared but it doesn’t matter because they will get jobs through affirmative action anyway.

I know, “no run-on sentences.”


9 posted on 08/04/2017 7:19:55 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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To: hal ogen

> Their now suspect degrees are truly worthless. <

Yep. And there will be collateral damage. Those minorities - and everyone else - who work hard will be lumped in with the free-pass graduates.

A friend of the family went to medical school (and graduated). He said that if you’re white or Asian and fail one course, you’re out. But minorities get a second chance to take the course. That policy makes everyone look bad.


10 posted on 08/04/2017 7:23:52 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I think people are reading this wrong.

They are doing away with these classes so that the idiots will drop out after the first semester in which they fail anyway.

With that, there is room for more people to try, and, hopefully, those that don’t need the special ed remedial classes will continue on to graduate properly.


11 posted on 08/04/2017 7:24:08 AM PDT by CodeToad (AA)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Students who aren’t ready for 4-year college need to take classes at community college until they ARE ready.


12 posted on 08/04/2017 7:29:18 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Remedial graduates like we have a shortage of them now only in Ca.


13 posted on 08/04/2017 7:45:31 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: Enchante

“It sounds like a recipe for lower standards.”

Either that or they are fast tracking the remedial students back to the streets to make room for more qualified students.


14 posted on 08/04/2017 7:55:27 AM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The prerequisite for these classes is “Understanding Why Remedials Are Accepted into College”. Lots of answers there.


15 posted on 08/04/2017 8:15:07 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Leaning Right

Here’s a thought, just issue a Cal State BA with the High School Diploma, 100% graduation rate, profs still get great salaries and nice offices without any effort, and grads get free toilet paper.


16 posted on 08/04/2017 8:21:01 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
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> Here’s a thought, just issue a Cal State BA with the High School Diploma, 100% graduation rate... <

That wouldn’t be fair to those “students” who don’t put in the effort to graduate high school. Unless you made the high school diploma also automatic, on, say, the 18th birthday of the student.

Then your plan would be fair.


17 posted on 08/04/2017 8:27:30 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: CodeToad
"...people are reading this wrong."

I agree. It sounds to me that they are adopting a sink or swim approach. That's the way it was in Berkeley years ago. I know because I almost learned to swim back then.

18 posted on 08/04/2017 8:46:45 AM PDT by William Tell
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Willie Brown got the California legislature to pass a law that the University of California (or perhaps all the public universities in California) had to graduate students in the same racial percentages as they were represented in the student body. That was when the governor was a Republican so they knew he would veto it.

I don't know if that was before or during the time that Kamala Harris was his mistress.

19 posted on 08/04/2017 9:51:45 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: CodeToad
that's the way i read it also
20 posted on 08/04/2017 3:43:00 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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