Posted on 08/03/2017 7:35:30 PM PDT by SJackson
JNS.org When presidential adviser Jared Kushner said in a recent private discussion that there may be no solution to the conflict between the Palestinian Arabs and Israel, he was just stating the obvious.
For nearly a century, self-appointed wise men have been claiming to have the solution but every such proposal has proved to be a mirage.
The British thought that they had the solution in 1922, when they sectioned off the eastern part of Mandatory Palestine 78 percent of the original mandate territory and set up an Arab kingdom there, which came to be known as Jordan. Youd think that giving the Palestinian Arabs 78 percent of the country would be enough to convince them to let the Jews have the remaining 22 percent. No such luck.
England tried again 15 years later. The Peel Partition Plan of 1937 proposed to divide up the remaining 22 percent of the country. The Arabs would get three-fourths of it. The British would keep Jerusalem and Bethlehem. The Jews dwarf-state would consist of the Galilee and a thin strip of land running down the coast. Jewish leaders, desperate for a few grains of sand, were willing to negotiate on that basis. The Arabs, however, refused.
In 1947, the United Nations came up with its own solution. Once again, the Arabs were offered the majority of the remaining territory. The Jews would be given a piece of the Galilee, part of the coast and a portion of the Negev. Such a Jewish state would have been militarily indefensible, not to mention incapable of absorbing large number of immigrants. But Jewish leaders, now desperate for anything in the wake of the Holocaust, accepted it. The Arabs, of course, rejected it. A bloody war followed.
US State Department officials Daniel Kurtzer and Dennis Ross came up with a new solution in 1989. They convinced outgoing president Ronald Reagan and incoming president George H.W. Bush that the solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was for the US to pretend that Yasser Arafat and the PLO wanted peace, and to negotiate with them. Yet Bush had to withdraw US recognition of Arafat 18 months later, when PLO terrorists were caught on their way to slaughter Israelis on the Tel Aviv beachfront and take hostages at the nearby American embassy.
But Kurtzer and Ross revived their solution 12 years later and managed to embarrass the next President Bush in the same way. They persuaded George W. Bush that Arafat, having signed the Oslo Accords, really wanted peace this time. But in January 2002, Arafat was caught trying to smuggle in 50 tons of weapons on a ship called the Karine A. Now it was the other Bushs turn to declare that the Palestinians must develop a new leadership, not tainted by support for terror. Like father, like son.
The Palestinians didnt heed Bushs advice. Instead of developing a non-terrorist leadership, they made Arafats number-two man, veteran terrorist Abu Mazen whom we know as Mahmoud Abbas their new leader. And was this so hard to predict Abbas promptly continued Arafats policies of glorifying terrorism, paying salaries to terrorists and encouraging terrorist attacks. So much for the Kurtzer-Ross solution.
Two desperate Israeli leaders, Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert, came up with solutions, too. Prodded and pressured by the State Department, Barak (in 2000) and Olmert (in 2008) offered the Palestinian Authority (PA) massive concessions. The Palestinians still wouldnt accept.
Does anybody remember Dennis Ross solution in 2010? He claimed that more Palestinian housing would lead to peace. He pressured Israel to let Hamas import cement. I argued with Israeli leaders and security officials, telling them they needed to allow more construction materials, including cement, into Gaza so that housing, schools and basic infrastructure could be built, he later wrote in the Washington Post. They countered that Hamas would misuse it, and they were right, Ross admitted. Hamas used the cement to build a labyrinth of underground tunnels, bunkers, command posts and shelters for its leaders, fighters and rockets, he said.
But the State Department just wouldnt give up. Martin Indyk and his assistant David Makovsky came up with a solution of their own which, as usual, would have involved Israel making sweeping territorial concessions and the Palestinians getting an armed, sovereign state that would be jammed against Israels throat. Israel needed to release 104 terrorists (who had killed 70 Israelis) just for the privilege of negotiating with the PA. But then right in the middle of the 2013-2014 Indyk talks, the PAs Abbas suddenly announced the creation of a PA-Hamas unity government. The Indyk-Makovsky solution was left in tatters.
Does anybody notice a pattern here? Isnt it obvious by now that any solution involving the permanent existence of a Jewish state of any size will never be sincerely accepted by the Palestinians?
All of the professional peace processors and self-appointed Middle East experts still dont seem to grasp a simple fact that an unassuming real estate developer-turned-presidential son-in-law evidently understands: the conflict between Palestinian Arabs and Israel has no solution. A century of bitter and bloody experience has made that painfully clear.
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He is right, at least in the short term
Oh, there’s a solution all right. You just don’t want to hear it.
Genesis 16:12
There will never be peace in the middle east. Read first and second Kings, it is a history of constant warfare between the Jews and their adversaries, the Canaanites, and numerous others that wanted the Jews destroyed. Now it is the phony “Palestinians,” who are nothing more than Arabs with another name. There will never be “peace” in the middle east as long as there are Arabs and the false, antichrist religion called Islam.
When I first heard he had said that, I agreed immediately. Then I realized there actually was a solution: It starts with ‘hydrogen’ and ends with ‘bomb.’
As long as the sand retards teach islam to the young, there will be no peace.
Of all religious brainwashing, islam is the most evil and destructive.
Teach facts, not fantasy you retarded morons.
Yup but Bannon is still better on the Middle East — wherever he is.
He’s right there is no quick solution is correct. It would be a long multi-generational project with no guarantees, to which I believe I said it here over a decade ago, and I didn’t think Bush understood among others. We don’t have the patience for it. Contain and neutralize threats from expanding would have been a much better objective instead of nation building.
With normal humans maybe so. But there is on such thing as a multi-generational muslim. Muslims are the same yesterday, today, tomorrow. They have been that way for thousands of years, and will remain that way till the end of time. They do not "evolve".
Bkmk.
When you are at odds with an enemy that prays for the opportunity to kill you because they “know” that they will be rewarded in an everlasting “heaven” by a “God” that wants to do things immorally in the eyes of a Christian God like lying, torturing, killing anyone, and taking all they own, without love or leadership for his brethren, then you don’t have a God. You have the opposite. And anyone that follows this type of thinking, is either just as immoral or maybe just plain stupid. But since they won’t stop until they get their rewards in their “heaven,” and it appears to be the only way, give it to them.
rwood
That’s not true! There is a solution! Fence off the Middle East savages and let them fight it out cage match style till they are almost extinct. Then we walk in, shoot the survivors, and then take their shit.
I don’t know about anyone else but I can tell you I’m sick and tired of hearing about the Middle East, die already.
there will never be peace there until Jesus Christ is sitting on the throne in the Temple in Jerusalem. take that to the bank, it’s from God himself.
“Oh, theres a solution all right. You just dont want to hear it.”
True dat.
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We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.
-- Golda Meir
Just for my education, WTF is a Palestinian? Is that a Syrian, Jordanian or Egyptian who used to live in a territory controlled by one of those three countries?
I’m rather serious about this question, it is a fundamental one which MUST be answered if they want to move forward.
The solution is to back Israel and keep her strong and resolute, hope that generational change will work a remedy for Islamism and its hatred of the West and modernity, and to muddle through the intermittent wars and crises in the meantime. Or, if the Muslims get out of hand, smash them back to the Stone Age.
When one side admit the other side has a right to even exist makes it a bit of a tough spot to begin a negotiation
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