Posted on 07/31/2017 1:17:29 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: Exclusive, right on time, as night follows day, we can always count on a push poll like this. From Reuters: Exclusive: Majority of Americans Want Congress to Move on From Healthcare Reform. Of course they do!
So here comes the failure by the Republicans to repeal and replace Obamacare. Fat repeal, skinny repeal, straight repeal, repeal and replace, replace but dont repeal, whatever it is, up in flames, up in smoke, and wouldnt you know, Reuters has gone out and surveyed people in New York and Boston and LA, wherever, and found people that think Congress should move on.
A majority of Americans are ready to move on from healthcare reform at this point after the U.S. Senates effort to dismantle Obamacare failed on Friday, according to an exclusive Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Saturday. Nearly two-thirds of the country wants to either keep or modify the Affordable Care Act, popularly known as Obamacare, and a majority of Americans want Congress to turn its attention to other priorities, the survey found.
Now, heres the next paragraph in the Reuters story: Republicans have vowed to dismantle the Affordable Care Act since Democratic President Barack Obama signed it into law in 2010, and it appeared they finally had their chance when Republican President Donald Trump took office in January. But the law, which helped 20 million people obtain health insurance, has steadily grown more popular.
Like hell it has. But here we go. Obamacare more popular than ever, Republicans hated and despised. And that may be, but not for the reasons the Reuters implies here. Obamacare hasnt helped 20 million people obtain health insurance. And heres another thing about this CBO score. I have intended to mention this the past couple or three days and just never got around to it.
The CBO score. We gotta get rid of the CBO. The CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, is one of the primary obstacles to any legislation being passed, but particularly health care reform. You remember when the media and the Democrats were just breathlessly excited when they released the CBO numbers that repealing and replacing Obamacare would cause 22 million Americans to lose their health insurance? Do you know why that would happen? It was because repeal repealed the mandate that people had to buy it.
It wasnt because the government was gonna come and take it away from you. It wasnt because what you had was going to be canceled. It wasnt because the insurance companies were then given permission to tell you to take a hike. It was simply the CBO statically, not dynamically, statically concluded that if you take away the mandate, the federal law requiring citizens to buy insurance, that 22 million people would lose their health insurance.
In other words, the CBO said that 22 million people would cancel their policy. Well, thats not what they said. Thats the end result. Thats how it would have had to happen. Because nobody was gonna take anybodys health insurance away, and nobodys health insurance was gonna be canceled. And yet the CBO is out there screeching that 22 million people will lose their health insurance. No, we cant do that, thats horrible, thats inhumane, thats no compassion.
No, no. It was simply the CBO the guessing that if people didnt have to buy it, they wouldnt. Which may make sense. How many people have bought this rigmarole simply because the law requires them to? How many people have actually engaged in this and gone and petered around inside one of these exchanges to come up with an Obamacare policy because they had to?
So the idea that removing the mandate requiring them to buy it is a good thing! It is a reinstallation, if you will, of the degree of liberty and freedom we had before Obamacare. Before Obamacare, you didnt have to have it. Everybody wanted it, but you didnt have to go buy it. No matter what it costs, you didnt have to buy it. So the CBO says 22 million people will lose their health insurance. What a gross misstatement of what would actually happen. And of course with the absence of critical thinking being taught, nobody concluded the correct thing.
By the way, thats a wild guess number. The CBO just assumed that people would lose i.e., thats the wrong word CBO just assumed people would cancel their policies if they didnt have to buy them. What does that tell you? Well, it tells me that somebody in Congress thinks a lot of people are buying health insurance that dont want it, and the first chance they get they dont have to buy it, theyll get rid of it. Which is a good thing. And it ends up being portrayed as heartless and cruel and typically Republican, when in fact it was a good thing. And it didnt have any relationship whatsoever to peoples health care or health insurance.
And yet that statistic, released the way it was, with the wording as it was, led to a lot of people not supporting it because they envisioned insurance companies canceling people, because, yes, thats what insurance companies do. All companies would rather their customers get sick and die than have to cover them and pay for them. Big Tobacco wanted to kill they are customer. Big Oil wants to destroy the planet. Big Pharmaceutical doesnt want to cure disease. Big Coal, all they want to do is pollute the rivers. Big Box Retail, all they want to do is rip people off.

You take your pick. Whatever major industry were talking about, the Democrats have demonized em. And now the health insurance providers are such that if they dont have to provide it, they wont, when in fact it wasnt about that at all. But back to the wording of this story. Obamacare did not and has not helped 20 million people obtain health insurance.
Now, Reuters writes this as though Obamacare provided a freebie. Obamacare provided an entitlement. Yes. Because people who couldnt otherwise afford it because insurance companies are mean were given subsidies in order to be able to buy it because the law said they had to, but corporations are so mean that they price it out of peoples reach, and that means that Obama made it possible for people have it, which is a stack of coal.
You know how many people are on Obamacare right now? What is the number that you know? Pick a number. The number of Americans who are actually on Obamacare. I have a number here that is hard to believe. In fact, I ought not use this number because I dont think its right, but its not far off. The number I have here is eight million people on Obamacare. That cant be right.
But the point is, Obamacare is nowhere near covering everybody. Its a giant myth that Obamacare came along and magically created health insurance opportunities for people that didnt have it. And its also not true that the Republican repeal would take health care away from people who wanted it. So many lies and so many just straight distortions here. The majority of people who are on an Obamacare policy had insurance anyway before they signed up for Obamacare. And there are a few million more on Medicaid thanks to the Medicaid expansion. But the Medicaid expansion is not health insurance.
Its also a lie that Obamacare has steadily become more popular. Nothing could be further from the truth. If that were true, more people would be signing up for Obamacare, but they arent. If that were true, the insurance companies would be lowering premiums because so many people would be signing up. If that were true, so many different state exchanges would have more than one provider.
If Obamacare were actually growing in popularity, we wouldnt be reading stories that its about to implode and it is and is going to leave several people without even an exchange to go buy a policy. The enrollee number has been stuck at eight million since 2014. In fact, the number of people who have signed up is almost a third of what this CBO assured us would have signed up by now.
The CBO predicted 22 million people would sign up for Obamacare by this time, since 2010. The number here is eight million, fewer than eight million. What are we talking about? Thats another thing about Obamacare that was always crazy from the beginning. If it was really about providing insurance for those who didnt have it that number is anywhere from eight to 12, and at the top 30 (at the very top 25, 30) million who didnt have it. Obamacare didnt fix that, didnt address that because thats not what Obamacare was about.
Look, I dont want to re-litigate all this like we did starting in 2010, 2009 when it was being debated. But Im telling you: There is so much disinformation out there about this that the Republican Party itself has fallen prey to it. The idea its growing more popular, that Americans want Congress to move on from it? Both of those things are not true. Heres a little cross-tab from the poll that I do not believe:
Among Republicans, 75% said that they would like their partys leaders to repeal and replace Obamacare at some point, though most listed other issues that would give a higher priority right now. When asked what they think Congress should do next, most Americans picked tax reform and then foreign relations and then infrastructure. Only 29% said they wanted the Republicans in Congress to continue working on a new health care bill. Republicans. Thats what the poll says. I dont believe it. But I could be wrong. And if it is true that only 29% want a new bill, its because their frustrated and dont think the Republican Party can get it done anyway.
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RUSH: Yesterday I dont think Ive got the audio on this. Doesnt matter. Jake Tapper yesterday had Bernie Sanders on, and they were discussing single payer. It failed in Vermont. The governor of Vermont tried single payer. It failed, wouldnt work, and didnt have the money, and Jake Tapper was interrogating Crazy Bernie about this. If Even Cobalt-Blue States Cant Make Single Payer Work, then why in the world does anybody think itll work in Washington or anywhere else?
Bernie Sanders Can't Explain How To Pay For Single Payer Or Why Blue States Rejected It
Crazy Bernie did not have an answer when asked why it didnt work in Vermont. The governor there, Peter Shumlin, did declare the debate over after getting estimates of the projected costs of socialized medicine in California. In California, the state assembly declared that they were gonna go single payer. The California state budget every year is $180 billion. Single payer for California alone would cost $200 to $300 billion, in addition to everything else the states already spending. The state budget without it is $180 billion. Single payer: $200 billion, minimum. And you know how they said they were gonna finance it?
A 15% increase in the payroll tax!
Which wouldnt even get close cause people are not gonna sit there and stand for that. Single payer may be the issue where everybody suddenly realizes Washington cant do it. There isnt the money for it! What is it were $20 trillion in debt? We really, theoretically Folks, we dont have the money to do anything with that kind of debt, and yet there doesnt seem to be any limit on spending, except when somethings this outrageous. The states cant print money, so theres no way they can do it. So these states acting as little, miniature laboratories for these great national ideas? Itll cost $200 billion when a state budget is already $180 billion.
Let me grab a call in before we wrap up the hour. I want to start with Anna in Phoenix. Welcome. Its great to have you here. How are you?
CALLER: Oh, fine. How are you, Rush?
RUSH: Very good. Very good. Thank you.
CALLER: Okay. You said be brief; Im gonna be brief. My husband and I were talking about what happened with President Trump saying that hes thinking about pulling funding for the congressman and senators own health care. My husband said, That probably will not make any dent at all with them. What they care about is getting reelected. So he said, What he should do is go out and rally in each of the states where these senators are holding him up and rally to recall them. Do a recall for them, because theyre not doing the job. What do you think?
RUSH: Well, I dont know specifically about recall. But I do know that people are seething, and thats why this Reuters poll of people saying, Move on! Were tired of it. Move on to tax reform? Thats a crock. Now, you say that your husband says that removing the funding for members of Congress and Obamacare would not bother them because all they care about is being reelected. I am here to tell you:
What they did in voting down the repeal and replace of Obamacare tells me theyre not afraid of the voters at all. The voters, of course, is how they get reelected. Now, McCain obviously is not gonna run again. Many of the senators just got elected, so theyre not gonna face voters for six years. A third of the Senate is up in 2018; another thirds up in 2020. But its clear and I have, I think, succinctly and brilliantly made this point on prior broadcasts that the senators are afraid of something.

But its not you. Its not the voters. Theyre certainly afraid of somebody or else they despise somebody but theyre not afraid. You know, Ted Cruz said the thing that he discovered that was the most I mean, he knew it, but to see it in action every day? It blew his mind that the single, dominating thing in every day of a senators life is getting reelected, which means fundraising. Thats number one, first and foremost.
Okay, if thats true, then how do you explain so many Republicans saying no on Obamacare? And the Democrats, too. There are a lot of Democrats coming up in 18 that should be vulnerable because they come from states that went very strong for Trump. And Im thinking theyre living under the illusion everybody hates Trump, and so they dont need to worry about that anymore. But theyre not worried about reelection on this. Taking them off Obamacare? Believe me, they tried to except themselves from what they were doing.
That does matter to them.
Its the craziest thing.
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RUSH: Investors Business Daily, an op-ed: Murkowski and McCain Saved Obamacare Just Months After Promising Voters They Would Repeal It. It may be standard-operating issue now, but I still dont think people can hear this enough. Whatever your views on Obamacare, the simple fact is that the GOP Senate voted to repeal Obamacare in December 2015, knowing full well that President Obama would veto the bill. That vote was [purposefully] conveniently timed to give Republican lawmakers the ability to go back to their states and proclaim that they had tried to repeal Obamacare, but were thwarted by a Democratic president.
Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski, for example, wrote multiple op-eds for her hometown papers decrying what Obamacare had done to her state, and vowing to repeal it, in the run-up to her 2016 re-election. In one [op-ed,] she wrote that the Affordable Care Act has unfortunately become one of the most ironically named pieces of legislation for Alaska in history.' Lisa Murkowski was one of all these Republicans voted in December of 2015.
For those of you in Rio Linda, it means the next month is 2016, which is an election year. They wanted to be on record as close to an election year as possible that they had sent a vote to repeal Obamacare up to Obama. Damn it, they repealed it. But thats what you get with a Democrat in the White House. You give us a Republican in the White House and well repeal it. She tells everybody how its not affordable. Its not this and that. Its not anything it purports to be, and she lays claim to no doubt that she opposes it.
In a floor speech in May 2016, she claimed that I have consistently supported full repeal of [Obamacare] and have voted to do so on several occasions. I have recognized that it is going to be difficult, if not impossible, to do so with [the Obama] administration. She voted for the repeal bill in 2015. She voted for the repeal bill in 2015 which, again, was timed purposely to give these people an example to say in their election, I just voted! I just voted to repeal it. You give us the presidency, and its over with.
Folks, this betrayal ranks right up there with every betrayal that weve had. This is in the top five all time political betrayals, the Republicans in the Senate on this. But this week, Murkowski voted against every single version of Obamacare repeal. She voted against repeal and replace. She voted against straight up-and-down repeal. She voted against skinny repeal. She would have voted against fat repeal if somebody would have come up with that. Yes, she did! She voted against skinny repeal that would have only ditched the individual and employer mandates and suspended the tax on medical devices.
John McCain explains why Obamacare MUST be REPEALED and REPLACED during 2016 campaign
She couldnt even vote for that. The CBO gave her cover, dont you know? She said, I did not come here to inflict pain on people. Whats that, inflicting people on people? Well, the CBO said that 22 million lovable Americans will lose their health insurance if No. No. Yeah, they said it, but thats a great big misdirection. The truth is 22 million people may not all lose their health insurance. It was simply the way the CBO chose to portray what they thought would happen if the mandate were done away with.
Its interesting to me that (chuckles) the Congressional Budget Office thinks if the mandate were taken away, everybody who bought Obamacare would cancel it. What does that say about it? But they chose to portray it as the governments gonna take it away from you, or your insurance companies are not gonna ensure you. Lisa Murkowski knew better. She knew what it meant. She knew that simply repealing the personal mandate, the employer mandates simply removing the requirement that you have insurance doesnt mean people lose it.
It means they have their freedom back! Thats right. She even voted against a skinny repeal that would have only ditched the laws individual and employer mandates and suspended the tax on medical devices [like dildos] a tax that is so harmful to that industry that even uber-liberal Sen. Elizabeth Warren wants it repealed. (interruption) What, you didnt think thats a medical device? (scoffs) , you go (interruption) You go talk to (interruption) Well, it certainly is. (interruption) In the right hands?
Murkowski was joined by Sen. John McCain, who ended up being the decisive vote killing the skinny repeal bill By the way, you dont think that was accidental, do you? You dont think they waited and gave McCain the last vote accidentally, do you? Just a year before saving Obamacare, however, McCain was vigorously attacking the law to win a tough reelection campaign. As Politico put it in a June 2016 article: In fight of his political life, McCain hammers Obamacare[.]
One of his 2016 campaign ads said Obamacare is failing Arizonans and that John McCain is leading the fight to stop Obamacare. Last February McCain introduced a bill to fully repeal Obamacare and replace it with a free-market approach that strengthens the quality and accessibility of care.' But McCain was running for reelection then, and so he was having to say things that he knew his constituents wanted to hear. He wasnt saying things he actually intended to do, obviously. Just like all the Republicans of his ilk.
Once elected, he sang a completely different tune. Theres a YouTube of McCains promises. He explains why Obamacare must be repealed and replaced. It was during the 2016 campaign. McCain said in a YouTube video: For the first time in history a major entitlement reform was rammed through the Congress without a single vote from the other side. I fought for weeks and weeks and weeks against Obamacare. They would not allow us an amendment. There was not a single amendment allowed. No input from the minority party.
We were the minority party. Now Congresswoman Kirkpatrick his opponent wants to sit down and work together. Well, heres how we work together: We repeal and we replace it. Thats McCain in a YouTube video last year. McCain went on to argue that the majority of the American people have resoundingly rejected Obamacare. One of the debate moderators asked McCain if it was possible for Congress to try to improve Obamacare rather than to try to repeal it. McCain rejected the idea that it could be fixed and that the only solution is to repeal Obamacare. This is last year!
This is the very same McCain that happily gave a thumbs down last week. Folks, it is sad to have to observe, but John McCain just proved that everything his harsh critics have ever said about him is likely true, and we know why. We know exactly why. Some people might even claim they understand it. Trump, in one of his early statements after having announced his intention to seek the Republican presidential nomination, when asked about Senator McCain, said he didnt have a whole life respect for him cause he got captured.
Trump says he has more respect for military people that dont get captured. (sigh) Well, think what you will of that. But you cannot think what you will of that without recognizing the importance of that story to McCains political biography. It is crucial to McCains biography. Everybody knows it thats how crucial its been that McCain was captured after being shot down, that when the Vietcong found out who he was (i.e., the son of a famous Navy admiral), they offered him release and how McCain said no.
He was not going to take early release unless his fellow prisoners would be released and of course, they werent; so McCain wasnt. That story has been part of McCains political biography. Here came Trump inside of two sentences blowing it smithereens. McCain, I just know as I say, Im sure many of you can even understand, maybe even agree has been waiting for the right moment to stick it back to Trump and chose to do it last Thursday as the last vote, thumbs down, killing Obamacare repeal.
So lets not hear about all this statesmanship stuff. Lets not hear about all that. Thats maybe applicable to some. Even John Fund at National Review: Mr. McCain Goes to Washington. Just let me give some pull quotes from this piece. McCains vote against advancing Obamacare reform represents a complete reversal of the position he won his Senate election with last year. John Merline of Investors Business Daily notes that In the private sector, promising one thing and delivering the other could be referred to as deceptive trade practice.
For some members of Congress, its just another day at the office. Journalists [i.e. the media] rushed to gush over [McCains] vote, cast only a few days after a surgery to remove a dangerous brain tumor. The New Yorkers take was typical: Throughout his political life, John McCain has for many reasons enjoyed bipartisan respect and even reverence: his independence of mind (usually), his candor (usually), his decency, his love of country,' and all of this is said of John McCain because he regularly betrays his own party.
Thats why the media loves John McCain.
Republicans have 52 Senators.
McCain, Collins and Murkowski have shown that they intend to side with the Democrats no matter what. There is nothing that can persuade them.
How is that the “Republicans are to blame?”
Almost all Republicans voted to repeal and replace Obamacare to some extent. They are not to blame.
You can blame the Senate leadership for not planning this better and for being blindsided but it is the Democrats and three RINO Republican senators, not the Republicans.
How come Democrats (even from Red States) never defect?
It was all for show. They all knew if one defected, it was dead. McCain was ringer.
Almost all of them campaigned on full repeal. Not replace and repeal. Full repeal.
They have proven they are full of it.
The GOP is as worthless as the Democrats. I will never waste my time again supporting this corrupt party.
A few defected on Gorsuch.
McCain, Collins and Murkowski have shown that they intend to side with the Democrats no matter what. There is nothing that can persuade them.
How is that the Republicans are to blame?
Shhh... You can't ask that question on FR.
Jesus Christ: You can't impeach Him and He ain't gonna resign.
It's not. Individual politicians are responsible for their votes, and the vast majority of them voted correctly.
Also, the sun sets in the west.
The apologists for the establishment keep saying this, but those of us who have been paying attention know that it is not true. The only reason more didn't vote against repeal is because more votes weren't needed. If senatecritter X can't vote for a bill that is widely panned by his constituency because he's up for reelection soon, and senatecritter Y has 4 years before he has to face the voters again, then Y provides cover for X to run back to his state to say, "I voted against it", when in fact, had his vote been needed to block the bill, he would have provided it.
We are sick of their sick games.
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