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The Forgotten History of Britain's White Slaves in America
American Thinker.com ^ | July 28, 2017 | Janet Levy

Posted on 07/28/2017 11:32:41 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: PGR88

Go to certain areas and see if that is true.

Blue bloods in the east don’t like the lower classes. Never had.


21 posted on 07/28/2017 11:59:20 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: Mount Athos

“I never heard of a death rate equivalent to 2 year lifespan for [indentured servants] in colonies.”

In Maryland, during the first year in the colony, 30% of the new settlers would die; this was called ‘the Seasoning.’ After 10 years, roughly 70 % would have died. The southern colonies were not a healthy place for Europeans. New England had a less lethal climate.


22 posted on 07/28/2017 11:59:46 AM PDT by VietVet
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To: Just mythoughts
And apparently there were some Germans in that mix as well... but they came of their own free will.

There were many Germans in the mix.

They had been sold air castles about the opportunities of the new world; but no one warned them that every little fiefdom along the Rhine would exact a per passenger toll on their way to the Atlantic.

By the time they reached the Atlantic port many were broke.

23 posted on 07/28/2017 12:00:44 PM PDT by lightman (Trump = A glorious amalgamation of Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan!)
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To: clamper1797

This is a misuse of the word slavery. Indentured servitude was not slavery:
1. It was normally a voluntary action, the servant agreed to pay off the cost of his/her sea passage to the colony by working for a fixed time (no more than 7 years), after which he was free and clear of his debt.
2. Few prospective immigrants had the funds to pay for the ocean trip and used this somewhat like a credit card. Exchanging ones labor for money to pay off a debt is still common, tho the terms of the exchange have changed somewhat.
3. The convict who came to Georgia (mostly), or later Australia, were serving a sentence following a criminal trial. He was probably better off than going to jail, tho I suspect that most had no say in the matter.


24 posted on 07/28/2017 12:03:32 PM PDT by expat2
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To: TigerClaws

LOL! Yes., This will put an end to that real quick.


25 posted on 07/28/2017 12:05:09 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: RatRipper

My (step) dad’s family came across the pond.... William Bradford, specifically. Of course, further on down the generational line on my mom’s side, we balanced the Puritan leaning out with a little West Texas roughness, being blood related to Judge Roy Bean.

Makes for some interesting dynamics, let me tell you!


26 posted on 07/28/2017 12:08:45 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: lightman

I have no ‘information’ regarding the status of my German ancestors, only that it appears they landed in Charlestown, SC, way back when. As well as some of my Scottish ancestry.

Not that I doubt your info...


27 posted on 07/28/2017 12:09:11 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

My information comes from a small book “Middleburger’s Journey to Pennsylvania”.

It had been available through the York History Center

https://www.yorkhistorycenter.org/


28 posted on 07/28/2017 12:13:51 PM PDT by lightman (Trump = A glorious amalgamation of Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Kaslin

Jim Goad has written a great deal about the history of white slavery in America (check out his book “The Redneck Manifesto”), all of which fell on deaf ears in the world of journalism because these facts would rob Blacks of their claim to unique victimhood.


29 posted on 07/28/2017 12:14:53 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: TigerClaws

Whenever liberals say that slavery of US blacks was a uniquely evil page in history, just remind them that during the Middle Ages, most people were peasants or serfs who were for all intents an purposes slaves of some noble lord, and that in colonial times indentured servitude applied to whites just as it applied to any other race.


30 posted on 07/28/2017 12:18:02 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Scots were sent to North Carolina as slaves after Cullodan to work in the pits. Thus the name Tarheel.


31 posted on 07/28/2017 12:22:05 PM PDT by MGG
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To: Kaslin

Also Scots who fought for Charles II against Cromwell at the Battles of Dunbar (1650) and Worcester (1651). Prisoners shipped to New England, Virginia, Caribbean islands as indentured servants


32 posted on 07/28/2017 12:22:24 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: DesertRhino
More stormfront type thinking here. A person entering a contract to work, with release at the end, in exchange for passage isn’t slavery. The Irish weren’t slaves.

If they went voluntarily, you might be right. Many were involuntarily transported. And the "indenture" system did not give their masters any incentive to keep them alive to reach the end of their indenture:

They were promised land after a period of servitude, but most worked unpaid for up to15 years with few ever owning any land. Mortality rates were high. Of the 1,200 who arrived in 1619, more than two thirds perished in the first year from disease, working to death, or Indian raid killings. In Maryland, out of 5,000 indentured servants who entered the colony between 1670 and 1680, 1,250 died in bondage, 1,300 gained their right to freedom, and only 241 ever became landowners.

33 posted on 07/28/2017 12:23:13 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Kaslin

I once knew a man, a physician, whose family was proud of being descended from one of George Washington’s indentured servants who was a poor young Scot. The ancestor worked out his 7 years, became free, and went out into the world where he was unable to make a living. Because he had been well treated by George, he went back to indentured servitude under George, worked off another 7 years and,in his second opportunity as a free man, was able to get on his feet and marry and live to have many descendants. It is also the case than many black slaves in the South, when tobacco was the dominant crop,took advantage of manumission laws and became free. After 1804, with the rise of King Cotton, all the manumission laws were repealed and slavery became more vicious although there were free blacks still and even a few who themselves owned slaves. Francis Scott Key, who has been recently so attacked as a racist, freed the greater percentage of his slaves and enabled one of the freed slaves to serve him as the paid manager of his Frederick County farm.


34 posted on 07/28/2017 12:27:54 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: PGR88

We’re all indentured servants, our children and grandchildren too, thanks to the national debt.


35 posted on 07/28/2017 12:29:31 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Kaslin

If you look up historical records, it shows as “Terms of Indenturement”. Plymouth colony descendant here...


36 posted on 07/28/2017 12:33:00 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: lightman

“as they were viewed as valuable, lifelong property “

I’m not sure if you are implying if that made their slavery somehow “better”. Somehow I doubt those people felt special.


37 posted on 07/28/2017 12:34:06 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (.)
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To: lightman
Thanks.. I will check it out... My ancestors have been found in South Carolina - on to North Carolina and on to Tennessee, and then Missouri, the other side, Virginia to Kentucky on to Missouri... The Germans in the mix appeared to have come via ships to Charlestown, South Carolina... I cannot find where those that were in Virginia landed. Earliest I can verify Germans and Scots on both sides is 1750.
38 posted on 07/28/2017 12:35:07 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Kaslin

Where do you think the term plantation came from? Who do you think serfs were?


39 posted on 07/28/2017 12:41:39 PM PDT by t4texas (Remember the Alamo!)
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To: Mount Athos
I'm also skeptical: in the Caribbean I would not be surprised. Sugar and rum were so profitable that slaves were worked to death and replaced.

This wasn't so much the case in the continental tobacco colonies, which were less profitable, and the cost of an imported slave (with the additional travel) was proportionately higher.

40 posted on 07/28/2017 12:47:39 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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