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Here's what's in 'skinny repeal' [as of this AM]
Axios ^ | 07/27/2017 | Caitlin Owens

Posted on 07/27/2017 8:26:57 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Senate Republicans are still editing their "skinny repeal" of the Affordable Care Act, but it's changed since yesterday to include slightly more than the law's mandates but no repeal of the law's industry taxes, per two senior GOP aides.

Here's what's now in it:

+Individual mandate repeal +Partial repeal of the employer mandate +A one-year defunding of Planned Parenthood +More money for community health centers +A provision addressing the ACA's 1332 innovation waivers. The Senate replacement bill would have made them much more flexible, allowing ACA regulations like essential health benefits to be waived. It's unclear how much more flexible they'll be under skinny repeal, especially because it remains unclear whether the original expanded waivers complied with budget rules.

What's not in it: A repeal of the ACA's medical device tax.

(Excerpt) Read more at axios.com ...


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There is concern, though, that waivers and the Planned Parenthood defunding may not pass reconciliation rules and may have to go.
1 posted on 07/27/2017 8:26:57 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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RE:”+Individual mandate repeal “

Seemingly easy vote since it does so little.

That elimination without elimination of other mandates would cause premiums to rise even faster.

And who would own it?

Not Dems.

2 posted on 07/27/2017 8:30:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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To: GIdget2004
This is better than nothing. Nothing we can do with these communists seven Republicans to change their minds on total repeal. McCain, sick as he is, is a real pile of shi!. And the two women, one from Alaska and the other Main, are the two most ignorant jackasses in the party.
3 posted on 07/27/2017 8:35:54 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: GIdget2004

The lefties have been using salami tactics for generations. We may have to do the same until we purge more Collinses and McCains.


4 posted on 07/27/2017 8:39:02 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: sickoflibs

Yup. When people are not forced to buy insurance then it will collapse.

Couple of points:

1. Maybe people are smart and know a bad deal and buying terrible insurance that is overpriced is a bad deal and stupid. Then again, it is a tax so that makes it all better.

2. Wonder how many people are not complying with the mandate? As the feds turn the thumb screws tighter and tighter eventually people will yell uncle and get on the exchanges and buy the terrible government insurance. Then all will be well and the Frankenstein monster will not die.


5 posted on 07/27/2017 8:43:03 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: GIdget2004

Right now it is the best thing going - shame the RINOs are now flaunting their broken promises and handcuffing President Trump.


6 posted on 07/27/2017 8:48:20 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: GIdget2004

Sounds more like emaciated, anorexic, fig-leaf repeal at this point.


7 posted on 07/27/2017 8:49:00 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dhs12345

Not if they can’t instead buy free market insurance.


8 posted on 07/27/2017 8:49:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dhs12345
RE:”Yup. When people are not forced to buy insurance then it will collapse.
Couple of points:
1. Maybe people are smart and know a bad deal and buying terrible insurance that is overpriced is a bad deal and stupid. Then again, it is a tax so that makes it all better.
2. Wonder how many people are not complying with the mandate? As the feds turn the thumb screws tighter and tighter eventually people will yell uncle and get on the exchanges and buy the terrible government insurance. Then all will be well and the Frankenstein monster will not die.”

It will collapse because people will be able to wait till they are sick before getting insurance.

The personal mandate is very weak, its law that the IRS is not allowed to enforce it and there are no penalties for not paying it.

But how many people know this and take advantage of it now?

No one knows

9 posted on 07/27/2017 8:50:21 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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I have a very liberal cousin, voted for Bernie, who did not comply and buy health care after fussing how bad reps were for opposing it.


10 posted on 07/27/2017 8:57:59 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: GIdget2004

Obamacare repeal and replace at this point is like trying to get the toothpaste back in the tube, which is exactly why obamacare should never have been allowed to be enacted in the first place.

Why was the pubbie opposition to obamacare so pathetically feckless? As Senator Toomey explained, the uniparty expected a democrat or rino to succeed Obama. The donor class WANTS socialized medicine.


11 posted on 07/27/2017 9:01:53 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC)z)
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To: sickoflibs
Ya. I know how it works. Like Social Security and Medicare, which btw, I heard is going bankrupt.

*******

A lot of people not paying are taking advantage of it.

Here is my experience. People getting the subsidy HAVE BETTER INSURANCE THAN PEOPLE PAYING.

> My employer offers insurance for my family but is way more expensive than if we go through the exchange and even more of a terrible value. So we are forced to buy insurance thru Obamacare and it is terrible, with very large deductibles and we have to pay the doctor bills, too.

> Our friend qualifies for the subsidy and could care less how much it costs — she takes her family to those rip-off emergency clinics that are popping up in neighborhoods. She doesn't have to pay so she doesn't care. SOMEONE ELSE IS PAYING SO WHO CARES.

People who are not getting the government freebies find out after the fact that removal of a splinter from their finger at one of the rip-off emergency clinics costs them thousands of dollars — an actual case.

12 posted on 07/27/2017 9:12:17 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: GIdget2004

TODAY, pass a FULL repeal effective MM/DD/2018. Gather the right leaders (i.e. not a room full of politicians) to develop an American, free to choose, free market solution.


13 posted on 07/27/2017 9:17:58 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Next thing you know, 'ol Jed's a millionaire)
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To: GIdget2004

Nothing there to lower premiums....


14 posted on 07/27/2017 9:19:42 AM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God)
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To: ealgeone
Wonder how many people getting subsidies love obamacare. I bet that the percentage is high. Other peoples money....
15 posted on 07/27/2017 9:21:30 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: 9YearLurker

That would help.


16 posted on 07/27/2017 9:24:34 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: kjam22
One lie about insurance is that it is free market. When someone else is paying (the insurance company), then people don't pick and chose the best value and so the best value (quality and cost) is never achieved.

Of course, Obamacare did nothing to solve this problem and it never will... unless the whole thing switches to single payer and the government starts dictating how much can be charged. Then quality suffers.

17 posted on 07/27/2017 9:31:15 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: GIdget2004
It will also authorize the previously illegal subsidies to insurance companies.
Looking, now, like the House is going to just send this Obamacare-enabling RINO insurance company pay off to Trump:

Chad Pergram‏Verified account @ChadPergram · 2h2 hours ago
Cornyn indicates that health care plan will pass tonight

Chad Pergram‏Verified account @ChadPergram · 3h3 hours ago
Conservatives pushing House to stick around & approve "skinny repeal." Unclear if that could pass

Matt Fuller‏Verified account @MEPFuller · 1h1 hour ago
Just ran into a very knowledgeable senior House GOP aide I trust: He thinks House Republicans — conservatives included — take skinny repeal.



18 posted on 07/27/2017 9:32:50 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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Twitter:
“NEW: McConnell emails GOP with deets of skinny repeal. It’s what’s been reported except employer mandate is repealed for minimum 6 years”
And
“Sen Rounds says he’s asked for a guarantee house won’t pass skinny before conference or a delay in implementation if it passes”

Hmmm... maybe the House conservatives are ‘playing’ the Senate RINOs on this.


19 posted on 07/27/2017 10:51:49 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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"Cameron Joseph‏Verified account @cam_joseph · 17m17 minutes ago
.@SenJohnMcCain on House just passing the skinny repeal bill: "I'm very worried about it and I would be worried about the product." "

Ha! The game is ON...
Same reporter: "Freedom Caucus members I’ve talked to (like @DaveBratVA7th) weren’t anywhere near ready to commit to killing it"

20 posted on 07/27/2017 11:01:55 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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