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To: GIdget2004

Serious question: does the POTUS have the constitutional authority to make/change/modify rules in this area, or is it a legislative decision? If the Executive does have the authority, it would be reviewable by the Judicial branch, unless there is some rule denying jurisdiction, which I doubt, as prohibitions on judicial review are very rare, to say the least.

I’d like to hear Trump’s rational for this. Were I POTUS, I would defer this to the military, as they are in the best position to determine who should serve and in what capacity.


31 posted on 07/26/2017 10:47:57 AM PDT by theoilpainter
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To: theoilpainter

Yes, President Trump has that power.

Harry Truman issued Executive Order to Desegregate US Military.

Executive Order 9981: Desegregation of the Armed Forces (1948)
In 1940 the U.S. population was about 131 million, 12.6 million of which was African American, or about 10 percent of the total population. During World War II, the Army had become the nation’s largest minority employer. Of the 2.5 million African Americans males who registered for the draft through December 31, 1945, more than one million were inducted into the armed forces. African Americans, who constituted approximately 11 per cent of all registrants liable for service, furnished approximately this proportion of the inductees in all branches of the service except the Marine Corps. Along with thousands of black women, these inductees served in all branches of service and in all Theaters of Operations during World War II.

During World War II, President Roosevelt had responded to complaints about discrimination at home against African Americans by issuing Executive Order 8802 in June 1941, directing that blacks be accepted into job-training programs in defense plants, forbidding discrimination by defense contractors, and establishing a Fair Employment Practices Commission (FEPC).

After the war, President Harry Truman, Roosevelt’s successor, faced a multitude of problems and allowed Congress to terminate the FEPC. However, in December 1946, Truman appointed a distinguished panel to serve as the President’s Commission on Civil Rights, which recommended “more adequate means and procedures for the protection of the civil rights of the people of the United States.” When the commission issued its report, “To Secure These Rights,” in October 1947, among its proposals were anti-lynching and anti-poll tax laws, a permanent FEPC, and strengthening the civil rights division of the Department of Justice.

In February 1948 President Truman called on Congress to enact all of these recommendations. When Southern Senators immediately threatened a filibuster, Truman moved ahead on civil rights by using his executive powers. Among other things, Truman bolstered the civil rights division, appointed the first African American judge to the Federal bench, named several other African Americans to high-ranking administration positions, and most important, on July 26, 1948, he issued an executive order abolishing segregation in the armed forces and ordering full integration of all the services. Executive Order 9981 stated that “there shall be equality of treatment and opportunity for all persons in the armed forces without regard to race, color, religion, or national origin.” The order also established an advisory committee to examine the rules, practices, and procedures of the armed services and recommend ways to make desegregation a reality. There was considerable resistance to the executive order from the military, but by the end of the Korean conflict, almost all the military was integrated.


49 posted on 07/26/2017 10:52:06 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: theoilpainter

POTUS is the Commander in Chief of the military, i.e. the leader, top dog etc... if he says wear flip flops into combat that’s an order. He doesn’t “defer to the military”, especially since the military people making these decisions are making them from a political expediency standpoint rather than for military effectiveness.


58 posted on 07/26/2017 10:56:32 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: theoilpainter
Serious question: does the POTUS have the constitutional authority to make/change/modify rules in this area, or is it a legislative decision? If the Executive does have the authority, it would be reviewable by the Judicial branch, unless there is some rule denying jurisdiction, which I doubt, as prohibitions on judicial review are very rare, to say the least.

The Constitution makes the President Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces. I would assume that means he can set policy without Congressional approval. After all, did Truman get Congressional approval before integrating the military?

66 posted on 07/26/2017 11:02:07 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: theoilpainter

Isn’t POTUS the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Services? If he decides the military has decided.


89 posted on 07/26/2017 11:09:11 AM PDT by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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