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Tsunami to Hit Germany: Five Auto Companies Admit to Illegal Cartel
Townhall.com ^ | July 24, 2017 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 07/25/2017 8:26:16 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/25/2017 8:26:16 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Ach, du leibe!


2 posted on 07/25/2017 8:30:24 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Gott im Himmel!


3 posted on 07/25/2017 8:31:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin

“Diesel is toast”.

Over 50 percent of European cars are diesel.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/425113/eu-car-sales-share-of-diesel-engines-by-country/

If diesels are toast, then bring more butter. They ain’t going anywhere.


4 posted on 07/25/2017 8:32:29 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: dfwgator

Heiliger Strohsack!


5 posted on 07/25/2017 8:33:29 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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Over 50 percent of European cars are diesel.

I found that out the hard way when I rented a car in Spain recently.

6 posted on 07/25/2017 8:35:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin

Oh no!, I feel sooo bretrayed that I’m going to dump my tunned A4...


7 posted on 07/25/2017 8:35:12 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Kaslin

Hardly surprising. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Japanese and, yes, even the Once Big Three, are doing the same. I guess it’s a fine line between “industrial standards” and cartel behavior. They still have to compete with other European, Japanese, Korean and American car manufacturers.


8 posted on 07/25/2017 8:39:14 AM PDT by captain_dave
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The German govt was a silent partner in the conspiracy. The EU emmisions regulations were used as a non tariff barrier to the advantage of the German diesel and car makers. The next shoe to drop will be the conspiracy of heavy duty truck and equipment manufactures.


9 posted on 07/25/2017 8:40:49 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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How are the diesel pumps in Spain labeled? IIRC, it's "Gazole" (or "Gasoil") across the border in France.

I liked my euro-rental... Ford C-Max "Eco-Torque" turbodiesel 5-speed stick. Wish they'd import that powertrain, rather than the hybrid B.S.

10 posted on 07/25/2017 8:43:58 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: captain_dave
Hardly surprising. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Japanese and, yes, even the Once Big Three, are doing the same. I guess it’s a fine line between “industrial standards” and cartel behavior. They still have to compete with other European, Japanese, Korean and American car manufacturers.

 

Correct. The USA is not alone in imposing ridiculous and oppressive standards regarding emmisons. Europe has these rules also. And diesel auto companies MUST manipulate and game the system if they want to stay in business.

11 posted on 07/25/2017 8:44:37 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Kaslin

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch. I hope that the “Nazi Thunderbird” is dead. These companies are all “green” on the outside, and “red’ on the inside.


12 posted on 07/25/2017 8:44:41 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Jeff Chandler

Ach du Liebe, na so was.


13 posted on 07/25/2017 8:47:03 AM PDT by Kaslin (Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur - Politicians are not born; they are excreted. (Cicero)
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Germany

I’m surprised they have any economy at all...

the loss of tourist dollars and pounds sterling must be a big hole for them ...

whats the rest of their trade like...


14 posted on 07/25/2017 8:48:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Genau!


15 posted on 07/25/2017 8:49:39 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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I’ve never heard that expression, and German is my native language. Probably depends on the area.


16 posted on 07/25/2017 8:49:51 AM PDT by Kaslin (Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur - Politicians are not born; they are excreted. (Cicero)
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To: captain_dave
With the cost of developing new engines, transmissions, etc it makes sense for car companies to partner up for joint development. The car companies face a common target from Governments, so it makes sense to partner up for a common solution.

Another example is a work done to agree on a standard plug for the charging electrical cord for plug in hybrids.

It maybe that the Germans did not use the proper legal form of joint venture / partnerships to address these issues.

17 posted on 07/25/2017 8:50:43 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: NativeSon

Right after I dump my TT 225 BHP?


18 posted on 07/25/2017 8:50:46 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: Oldexpat
The next shoe to drop will be the conspiracy of heavy duty truck and equipment manufactures.

Hmm. IIRC, companies in Europe such as Groupe PSA (Peugeot, Citroen, etc.) have an arrangement with American automakers where diesel power is concerned. Ford (for example) ships large diesel engines to Europe for use in delivery trucks while PSA ships light diesels to Ford of Europe for its automobiles.

Other similar trade agreements may be woven into this mess and may be attacked in the media as methods to circumvent environmental standards and other nonsense.

19 posted on 07/25/2017 8:52:21 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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Industry developed standards are a bad thing?


20 posted on 07/25/2017 8:52:50 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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